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- From: "richey goldberg" To: "North American Network Operators Group" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:16:13 PM Subject: Re: Russian aligned ASNs? I don’t think that refusing Russian ASNs will do much to stop any kind of attacks. They are going to attack from botnet

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To: "Joe Greco" Cc: "North American Network Operators Group" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 7:59:08 PM Subject: Re: Russian aligned ASNs? I also imagine (without data) that most DoS attacks continue to be performed by botnets, using other people's connections, rath

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AFAIK they don't do that just because they are not being droned. When they were killed, just because cell towers was used by coordinators and as a source of information. Which once again reminds that if telecom doesnt stay neutral as much as possible, or worse, they side with one of conflicting p

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On 2/25/22 22:36, Tony Wicks wrote: Haha, we are like the underground cables we service. No one (apart from other engineers) notices or cares how much effort it takes to keep the packets flowing until it stops. One could say this about any service that its patrons aren't professionally a

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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 7:23 PM Tom Beecher wrote: >> Would it improve Internet health to refuse Russian ASN announcements? > > This should never be a proposed solution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_Death_Penalty -- William Herrin b...@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/

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> > Would it improve Internet health to refuse Russian ASN announcements? > This should never be a proposed solution. On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:42 PM William Allen Simpson < william.allen.simp...@gmail.com> wrote: > There have been reports of DDoS and new targeted malware attacks. > > There were

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Obligatory xkcd - https://xkcd.com/705/ On 2/25/2022 at 3:26 PM, "Dave Taht" wrote: > >I have always viewed our job has always been to keep the network >running, no matter what.

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The four LTE (3GPP rev-whatever) based networks in Afghanistan are all still operational. Roshan, AWCC, MTN, Etisalat. In .AF the line between ISP and MNO is very blurry since 98% of internet using customers do not have fixed line service at home or office and use a mobile network instead. These

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I have always viewed our job has always been to keep the network running, no matter what. I just re-read this. https://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth-A4.pdf On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 4:16 PM Max Tulyev wrote: > > Better just apply EU sanctio

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Better just apply EU sanctions to RIPE NCC. Wait for some time. And see all Russians are NATed to several Chinese IPs ;) No ASN, no BGP, no hijacks, no DDoSes... 25.02.22 02:40, William Allen Simpson пише: There have been reports of DDoS and new targeted malware attacks. There were questions

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Haha, we are like the underground cables we service. No one (apart from other engineers) notices or cares how much effort it takes to keep the packets flowing until it stops. -- Just imagine what it must be like trying to keep those IP networks func

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My friend just got a phone call.  Electricity, cell phones and internet are all functional at this time. -- Just imagine what it must be like trying to keep those IP networks functional at a time like this.  Configuring routers while under fire..

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On 2/24/2022 6:01 PM, scott wrote: There were questions in the media about cutting off the Internet. One brief update not from the media.  My Russian friend just called her Russian friend in Russia who just finished talking to a friend in Ukraine that said the cell phones and internet are

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There were questions in the media about cutting off the Internet. One brief update not from the media.  My Russian friend just called her Russian friend in Russia who just finished talking to a friend in Ukraine that said the cell phones and internet are up. scott

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On 2/24/2022 2:40 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote: There have been reports of DDoS and new targeted malware attacks. There were questions in the media about cutting off the Internet. Apparently some Russian government sites have already cut themselves off, presumably to avoid counterattacks.

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I don’t think that refusing Russian ASNs will do much to stop any kind of attacks. They are going to attack from botnets that are global so that’s not going to stop them.If anything blocking Russian ASNs will stop the flow of information going into Russia. I think we’re better off doin

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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 05:59:08PM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: > I also imagine (without data) that most DoS attacks continue to be > performed by botnets, using other people's connections, rather than > directly by their ultimate perpetrators. So, the most effective and > meaningful mitigatio

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I also imagine (without data) that most DoS attacks continue to be performed by botnets, using other people's connections, rather than directly by their ultimate perpetrators. So, the most effective and meaningful mitigation would be trying to clean up bots, and prevent ongoing bot infections, rat

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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 07:40:54PM -0500, William Allen Simpson wrote: > Apparently some Russian government sites have already cut themselves > off, presumably to avoid counterattacks. > > Would it improve Internet health to refuse Russian ASN announcements? > > What is our community doing to ass

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Operators Group' Subject: RE: Russian aligned ASNs? I would suggest keeping the free flow of outside information to Russia would be the best thing we can do. -Original Message- What is our community doing to assist Ukraine against these attacks?

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I would suggest keeping the free flow of outside information to Russia would be the best thing we can do. -Original Message- What is our community doing to assist Ukraine against these attacks?

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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 4:42 PM William Allen Simpson wrote: > Would it improve Internet health to refuse Russian ASN announcements? > > What is our community doing to assist Ukraine against these attacks? If we're smart, waiting to see what our respective governments ask of us so that we don't g