RE: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-25 Thread George Bonser
> > At least for the FCX line we were told when trying to open a support > case that the limited lifetime warranty only applies to hardware and > does not make you eligible for any kind of support or software beyond > getting hardware replaced. > Yeah, you need to buy "phone support" if you want

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-25 Thread Voll, Toivo
...@seven.com] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 15:59 To: Florian Weimer; Ryan Finnesey Cc: nanog@nanog.org; John Macleod Subject: RE: SmartNet Alternatives > * Ryan Finnesey: > > > This is one of the reasons we are starting to look at Juniper for a > > new network build. It i

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-22 Thread Richey
e. Richey -Original Message- From: Neil J. McRae [mailto:n...@domino.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:56 AM To: gbon...@seven.com; tbran...@gmail.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SmartNet Alternatives I've used NHR for a number of deployments over the past couple of years

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-16 Thread Neil J. McRae
, February 15, 2011, 11:04 PM Subject: Re: SmartNet Alternatives I know NHR has a alternative that looks to be comparable. http://www.networkhardware.com/Maintenance/ -tb

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-16 Thread Christian de Larrinaga
Can anybody point to dependable analysis of the performance credentials on "green" (CO2/carbon neutral, recycling, etc) and financial cost recovery of the Internet vendors such Juniper and Cisco et al? The story emerging here is not looking very encouraging. Christian On 13 Feb 2011, at

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-15 Thread Todd Braning
I know NHR has a alternative that looks to be comparable. http://www.networkhardware.com/Maintenance/ -tb

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-13 Thread George Bonser
> * Ryan Finnesey: > > > This is one of the reasons we are starting to look at Juniper for a > > new network build. It is my understanding we set software updates > > for life for free. > > My understanding is that it's free for customers who have a service > contract in place. Most downloads a

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-13 Thread Randy Carpenter
> How does Juniper feel about used hardware? > > ~Seth I love Juniper's hardware and software, and support. However, the way they deal with used or second hand hardware is terrible. It is not possible to transfer ownership at all. You can not resell anything, and hope to get any software updat

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ryan Finnesey: > This is one of the reasons we are starting to look at Juniper for a > new network build. It is my understanding we set software updates > for life for free. My understanding is that it's free for customers who have a service contract in place. Most downloads are not self-serv

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
-- eintellego - The Experts that the Experts call - Juniper - HP Networking - Cisco - Brocade - Arista - Allied Telesis -Original Message- From: Michael Loftis Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:26:56 +1100 To: John Macleod Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: SmartNet Alternatives

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
iel Roesen Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:46:36 +1100 To: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: SmartNet Alternatives >On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 04:49:55PM -0500, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: >> If only Cisco would sell "software only" support. > >They do. You might have to make

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
- Brocade - Arista - Allied Telesis -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:49:24 +1100 To: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: SmartNet Alternatives >On 2/12/2011 13:33, Ryan Finnesey wrote: >> This is one of the reasons we are starting to lo

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/2011 13:33, Ryan Finnesey wrote: > This is one of the reasons we are starting to look at Juniper for a new > network build. It is my understanding we set software updates for life for > free. > Cheers > Ryan > How does Juniper feel about used hardware? ~Seth

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-12 Thread Alejandro Acosta
4:27 PM To: John Macleod Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SmartNet Alternatives Cisco is making noises that they'll eventually be restricting software access to ONLY those devices which have an active SmartNet contract associated to your CCO account. I don't know where this currently

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-12 Thread Brandon Kim
Sometimes you have to pick your battles. I'm sure there's a number cruncher somewhere telling Cisco this is a good idea. Let's see how the real world reacts though > Subject: RE: SmartNet Alternatives > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:33:32 -0800 > From: ryan.finne..

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-12 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Macleod Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SmartNet Alternatives Cisco is making noises that they'll eventually be restricting software access to ONLY those devices which have an active SmartNet contract associated to your CCO account. I don't know where this currently stands, and it sure

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-12 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 04:49:55PM -0500, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: > If only Cisco would sell "software only" support. They do. You might have to make your sales droid know that YOU know about it thought. :-) Order items were CON-SW-... in the past, not sure about today. Best regards, Daniel --

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/11/2011 13:49, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: > If only Cisco would sell "software only" support. 3rd party smartNet > alternatives are nice for parts replacement. They suck for support, imho, > especially, when it comes down to declaring a problem to be a bug. > On quite a few occasions I found bugs

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-11 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
If only Cisco would sell "software only" support. 3rd party smartNet alternatives are nice for parts replacement. They suck for support, imho, especially, when it comes down to declaring a problem to be a bug. On quite a few occasions I found bugs in IOS and TAC submitted those as bugs and fixed th

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-11 Thread Bryan Fields
On 2/11/2011 16:26, Michael Loftis wrote: > Cisco is making noises that they'll eventually be restricting software > access to ONLY those devices which have an active SmartNet contract > associated to your CCO account. I don't know where this currently > stands, and it sure will be a huge pain in

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-11 Thread Michael Loftis
Cisco is making noises that they'll eventually be restricting software access to ONLY those devices which have an active SmartNet contract associated to your CCO account. I don't know where this currently stands, and it sure will be a huge pain in my rear if/when it happens. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011