On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Livingood, Jason
jason_living...@cable.comcast.com wrote:
If you want to understand the issue in detail, check out the report from
MIT this year, written by Steve Bauer and available at
http://mitas.csail.mit.edu/papers/Bauer_Clark_Lehr_Broadband_Speed_Measurem
To: jacob miller
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Speed Test Results
Am having a debate on the results of speed tests sites.
Am interested in knowing the thoughts of different individuals in regards
to this.
They are excellent tools for generating user complaints.
(just like the do traceroute
Subject: RE: Speed Test Results
We host an Ookla Speedtest server onsite and find it a very reliable means
to identify throughput issues. The source of any performance issues may or
may not be ours, but if a customer says things are slow we can usually
identify whether it's their PC or network
to 100 Mbps over HTTP.
-Scott
-Original Message-
From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnk...@iname.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:28 PM
To: 'Michael Holstein'; jacob miller
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Speed Test Results
We host an Ookla Speedtest server onsite and find it a very
Basically it's a CYA statement on the part of Ookla/speedtest.net, since their
test sites are of varying quality. The Radnor, OH test site sometimes can't
even properly test a 10mbit SOHO broadband connection, where the Toledo site is
consistently able to flood every available bit of capacity
They are completely unreliable and not to be trusted except for an occasional
general indication of speed.
--
Leigh Porter
On 23 Dec 2011, at 09:20, jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
Am having a debate on the results of speed tests sites.
Am interested in knowing the
Couldn't agree more, it's unfortunate that so many users take them as
gospel!
On 12/23/2011 04:23 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
They are completely unreliable and not to be trusted except for an occasional
general indication of speed.
They are very useful for like-for-like comparison, for an indication of
where your minimum performance levels are probably at, for a quick check
that things are working properly and as expected.
To determine the exact max effective speed? To test qos policies? To
determine whether you are
In my opinion they are only somewhat reliable if they are on your network
or very close to your network -we operate one of the speedtest.net sites and
for our own eyeball traffic find it to be a reasonable indicator of what
kind of speeds the customer is getting.
To put it a different way, if a
Rolling your own with NDT (web100 tools), placing it on a common transit
point within your network, and providing access to your customers will
provide decent, consistent and pretty detailed results regarding TCP
attributes. There are facilities within the software to perform packet
captures
On Dec 23, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
In my opinion they are only somewhat reliable if they are on your network
or very close to your network -we operate one of the speedtest.net sites and
for our own eyeball traffic find it to be a reasonable indicator of what
kind of speeds the
granular info
you should be using other tools
Subject: Re: Speed Test Results
From: james.cut...@consultant.com
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:02:01 -0500
To: nanog@nanog.org
On Dec 23, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
In my opinion they are only somewhat reliable
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 01:18:40 -0800, jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Am having a debate on the results of speed tests sites.
Am interested in knowing the thoughts of different individuals in
regards to this.
They are just a measurement, which need to be correctly used and
interpreted
Hello,
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Octavio Alvarez
alvar...@alvarezp.ods.org wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 01:18:40 -0800, jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Am having a debate on the results of speed tests sites.
Am interested in knowing the thoughts of different individuals in
If you want to understand the issue in detail, check out the report from
MIT this year, written by Steve Bauer and available at
http://mitas.csail.mit.edu/papers/Bauer_Clark_Lehr_Broadband_Speed_Measurem
ents.pdf.
- Jason
On 12/23/11 4:18 AM, jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
Am
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:18 AM, jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Am having a debate on the results of speed tests sites.
Am interested in knowing the thoughts of different individuals in regards to
this.
It's one data point of many.
Depending on the speed test site, the protocols it
Am having a debate on the results of speed tests sites.
Am interested in knowing the thoughts of different individuals in regards to
this.
They are excellent tools for generating user complaints.
(just like the do traceroute and count the hops advice from gamer mags
of old).
(my
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:16:38 MST, Joel Maslak said:
However, they are susceptible to things like wireless network issues,
TCP limitations (one stream vs. many streams), and misconfiguration of
devices at the customer location. And the speed test box isn't
necessarily configured/speced
On 12/23/11 11:16 , Joel Maslak wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:18 AM, jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Am having a debate on the results of speed tests sites.
Am interested in knowing the thoughts of different individuals in regards to
this.
It's one data point of many.
Just a note on this subject although not directly related to the original
question - There some interesting tests available here:
http://www.measurementlab.net/
--
Landon Stewart lstew...@superb.net
Manager of Systems and Engineering
Superb Internet Corp - 888-354-6128 x 4199
Web hosting and
On 23/12/2011 21:26, Michael Holstein wrote:
They are excellent tools for generating user complaints.
I find that they are useful for filtering out some of the completely
bogus complaints. We encourage customers to include some test results
when they contact our NOC to avoid being ignored
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Graham Beneke gra...@apolix.co.za wrote:
That said - people get fixated on the numbers. 80% of the purchased speed
on non-CIR services is cause for a complaint.
Our biggest issue is people doing tests to destinations 300+ ms away that
only last for a few
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