Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-20 Thread Michael Crapse
Well, if the US government spies on everyone using exported cisco hardware, why wouldn't the PRC do the same? On 20 April 2018 at 08:59, Aaron Gould wrote: > Thanks Colton, Since I live in the US, and work for a boss that’s nervous > (concerned) about those things, then I

RE: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-20 Thread Aaron Gould
Thanks Colton, Since I live in the US, and work for a boss that’s nervous (concerned) about those things, then I comply. I remember mentioning Huawei as an option recently in a meeting and the boss and a few other fellow engineers were nervous and resistant to it. I tend to feel the same.

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-19 Thread Baldur Norddahl
The ZTE 5960 with 48x SFP+ and 4x QSFP28 (40G and 100G capable) will do it within the budget listed. We use it for MPLS and VPLS. Regards Baldur Den tor. 19. apr. 2018 18.17 skrev Giuseppe Spanò - Datacast Srl < sp...@datacast.it>: > Thank you very much to everyone. > > The budget is around

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-19 Thread Colton Conor
Ben, The Dell options intrigue me. First question is who do you talk to at Dell about their solutions as most sales guys just seem to know their laptop and server lines? How does Dell's pricing compare with Edge-Core. Considering most of the hardware is the same Broadcom chipset, what are the

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-19 Thread Colton Conor
Yes, there are issues/concerns with using Huawei in the USA, but in the rest of the world they are the number 2 vendor. Also, $3500 for that box with lifetime support and warranty (their TAC is in Plano, Texas) vs $10,000 for an ACX5048 onetime plus at least $1500 a year for JTAC seems like a big

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-19 Thread Colton Conor
Łukasz, Out of all those Cisco models, which meets the OP requirements of " (at least 24) SFP+ ports 10G and at least a couple of upstream ports 40G capable" and a " The budget is around 3000-5000 $ each, possibly. "? The Nexus 7000's look very large with the smallest being 3U in size, so I

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-19 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Colton, > On 19 Apr 2018, at 03:32, Colton Conor wrote: > > Cisco has mutliple options, but mainly the NCS based on your port count I > think. Supposely the C3850 and C9500 now support MPLS? There is a new 16 > port 10G version of the C9500. I haven't looked into Nexus

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-19 Thread Giuseppe Spanò - Datacast Srl
Thank you very much to everyone. The budget is around 3000-5000 $ each, possibly. There are many devices that could match our needs but as usual the dark side of this market is the platforms compatibility. We deployed many Mikrotik and Ericsson devices, hope they will "match" with a Cisco or

RE: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-19 Thread Aaron Gould
Aren't there issues/concerns with Huawei ? I think we pay about $10k with discounts and about (4) 10 gig port license to slow start our deployment of ACX5048's 10 gig east , 10 gig west , dual 10's facing FTTH OLT (Calix E7) -Aaron

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-19 Thread Ben Bartsch
I've been testing IPInfusion OcNOS running on Dell Z9100 and S4048. I've run a couple of test cases using MPLS LDP signaled port based and VLAN based VPWS (pseudowire / e-line / xconnect / Juniper CCC) and VPLS (e-lan) over an OSPFv2 IGP. It's working well between Dell/IPI to Dell/IPI boxes. We

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-18 Thread Colton Conor
What is your budget? I know on the low end many operators are using the Huawei S6720S-26Q-EI-24S-AC. You can get these new for $2500 to $3500, and the support all the features and port counts you requested. The also have a lifetime warranty that includes advanced replacement (10 days), TAC

RE: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-18 Thread Aaron Gould
look at these... * Juniper ACX5048 - I've deployed about ~50 of these over the last couple years and they are great boxes. I'm using them as mpls p/pe running L3VPN (v4 and tested 6vpe), L2VPN (manual martini l2circuits and bgp-ad rfc4762, I'll say that IOS XR asr9k has an occasional problem

RE: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-18 Thread Luke Guillory
, April 18, 2018 3:01 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches On 04/18/2018 03:49 PM, Eric Litvin wrote: > Brocade/arris is eager for business these days. They have a nice switch (10g > ports with 40g stacking) that should meet your needs with very aggr

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-18 Thread Hunter Fuller
Ruckus ICX switches do not do MPLS. They meet all the other requirements listed, but unfortunately MPLS was listed as the most important one. On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:01 PM Brandon Martin wrote: > On 04/18/2018 03:49 PM, Eric Litvin wrote: > > Brocade/arris is eager

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-18 Thread Brandon Martin
On 04/18/2018 03:49 PM, Eric Litvin wrote: Brocade/arris is eager for business these days. They have a nice switch (10g ports with 40g stacking) that should meet your needs with very aggressive pricing. Does the Brocade/Foundry-lineage stuff that went to Arris actually do MPLS? I didn't

Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

2018-04-18 Thread Eric Litvin
Brocade/arris is eager for business these days. They have a nice switch (10g ports with 40g stacking) that should meet your needs with very aggressive pricing. Eric Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Giuseppe Spanò - Datacast Srl > wrote: > > Hello, >