RE: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-30 Thread Mark Gauvin
7;t. Greg > > Dylan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:18 PM > To: Oliver Garraux > Cc: NANOG list > Subject: Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video) > > > On Mar 29, 2012, at

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
l Message----- > From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:18 PM > To: Oliver Garraux > Cc: NANOG list > Subject: Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video) > > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: > >>> Als

RE: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-30 Thread Dylan Bouterse
com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:18 PM To: Oliver Garraux Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video) On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: >> Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think unprotected airspace). >> Nothing stops everyone e

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: >> Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think unprotected airspace). >> Nothing stops everyone else in town from throwing one up and soon you're >> drowning in a high noise floor and it goes slow or doesn't work at all. Like >> what's h

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Joel jaeggli wrote: > Cost will continue to drop, fact of the matter is the beam width is > rather narrow and they attenuate rather well so you can have a fair > number of them deployed without co-channel interference. if you pack a > tower full of them you're goin

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 3/29/12 21:53 , Jonathan Lassoff wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: >> I was at Ubiquiti's conference. I don't disagree with what you're >> saying. Ubiquiti's take on it seemed to be that 24 Ghz would likely >> never be used to the extent that 2.4 / 5.8 is. They

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: > I was at Ubiquiti's conference.  I don't disagree with what you're > saying.  Ubiquiti's take on it seemed to be that 24 Ghz would likely > never be used to the extent that 2.4 / 5.8 is.  They are seeing 24 Ghz > as only for backhaul - no c

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Probably it will be a good alternate to FSO based laswer links for backhual. Probably cheaper & more reliable solution then hanging lasers between towers for backhaul? On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Oliver Garraux wrote: > > Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think unprotected airspace)

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Oliver Garraux
> Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think unprotected airspace). > Nothing stops everyone else in town from throwing one up and soon you're > drowning in a high noise floor and it goes slow or doesn't work at all. Like > what's happened to 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz in a lot of places. There's f

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Greg Ihnen
Respectfully, the claim isn't a "decline in the cost of backhaul bandwidth between 10 and 100 times", the claim is "Operators will be able to get 10 to 100 times more data throughput for the same dollar." which granted is a very good thing, but it does not imply how much more money one would hav

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Gordon Cook
On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > Anyhow, check the > video out on ubnt.com for an introduction and technical overview - > it's worth watching. The claim is a huge decline in the cost of backhaul bandwidth for wisps between 10 and 100 times. I have just finished the preparation