Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 7:27 PM Collider wrote: > Congrats! LIOAWKI is a hapax legomenon in DuckDuckGo's search results! > Could you please tell me & the list what it means? > Large Internet Outages Are What Kills Income! It's a phrase that is uttered by members of the finance organization every

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

Based on my personal experience of getting onto the contact list of an extremely persistent Cogent sales person, mostly, I am morbidly curious what their CRM system looks like for cold and stale leads, and how often these sets of non-responsive leads get passed on to new junior salespeople. And exa

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

My best guess is “Life As We Know It Will Be Over”, but that’s just a guess. Owen > On Oct 2, 2023, at 17:32, Collider wrote: > > So is LAWKIWBO, which is the correct acronym mentioned downthread. > > > Le 3 octobre 2023 00:29:08 UTC, Collider a > écrit : >> Congrats! LIOAWKI is a hapax le

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

So is LAWKIWBO, which is the correct acronym mentioned downthread. Le 3 octobre 2023 00:29:08 UTC, Collider a écrit : >Congrats! LIOAWKI is a hapax legomenon in DuckDuckGo's search results! Could >you please tell me & the list what it means? > >Le 2 octobre 2023 15:28:03 UTC, Mel Beckman a écr

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

Congrats! LIOAWKI is a hapax legomenon in DuckDuckGo's search results! Could you please tell me & the list what it means? Le 2 octobre 2023 15:28:03 UTC, Mel Beckman a écrit : >This morning I received an email from someone at Cogent asking about an ASN I >administer. They didn’t give any detail

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

In this case, it came from a person with the title of “Global Account Manager”. Unless sales people are handling peering requests all of a sudden, it’s definitely a sales pitch. > On Oct 2, 2023, at 16:47, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > >  Has anyone replied? > > If this is a peering request,

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

Patrick, It’s a sales pitch, and ARIN acknowledges it violates their terms and has taken action. -mel > On Oct 2, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > >  Has anyone replied? > > If this is a peering request, not sure that is a bad use of the AS contact > info. > > If it is a sal

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

Has anyone replied? If this is a peering request, not sure that is a bad use of the AS contact info. If it is a sales pitch, then yeah, that’s a problem. -- TTFN, patrick > On Oct 2, 2023, at 14:58, Tim Burke wrote: > > Hurricane has been doing the same thing lately... but their schtick is t

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

On 10/2/23 22:59, Matthew Petach wrote: Huh? In all my decades of time in the network industry, I have never seen a case where a smaller transit contract had lower per mbit cost than a larger volume contract. I would expect that HE would make *more* money off 10 smaller customer transit

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 12:14 Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 10/2/23 20:58, Tim Burke wrote: > > > Hurricane has been doing the same thing lately... but their schtick is > to say that "we are seeing a significant amount of hops in your AS path and > wanted to know if you are open to resolve this issue".

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

On 10/2/23 20:58, Tim Burke wrote: Hurricane has been doing the same thing lately... but their schtick is to say that "we are seeing a significant amount of hops in your AS path and wanted to know if you are open to resolve this issue". I get what HE are trying to do here, as I am sure al

RE: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

Hurricane has been doing the same thing lately... but their schtick is to say that "we are seeing a significant amount of hops in your AS path and wanted to know if you are open to resolve this issue". complia...@arin.net is about all that can be done, other than public shaming! Other outfits

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

Jay, Apparently my sarcasm was too subtle :) -mel > On Oct 2, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Jay Hennigan wrote: > > On 10/2/23 09:16, Mel Beckman wrote: >> Tom, >> Thanks for that pointer! apparently cogent has a history of abuse. > > Apparently? > > In other news, apparently bears have been using ou

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

On 10/2/23 09:16, Mel Beckman wrote: Tom, Thanks for that pointer! apparently cogent has a history of abuse. Apparently? In other news, apparently bears have been using our National Forests as their personal toilets for decades. -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

dang auto correct! I should’ve caught that bad change. what I meant to say, was: LAWKIWBO. -mel > On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: > > John, > > Thank you for your guidance! > > -mel > >> On Oct 2, 2023, at 8:33 AM, John Sweeting wrote: >> >> Mel, I will reply to you of

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

Tom, Thanks for that pointer! apparently cogent has a history of abuse. -mel On Oct 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Tom Beecher wrote:  complia...@arin.net Refer back to an email John Curran sent to this list on Jan 6 2020 , "Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois" On

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

John, Thank you for your guidance! -mel > On Oct 2, 2023, at 8:33 AM, John Sweeting wrote: > > Mel, I will reply to you off list. Thanks. > > On 10/2/23, 11:28 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Mel Beckman" > mailto:arin@nanog.org> on > behalf of m...@beckman.org > wro

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

complia...@arin.net Refer back to an email John Curran sent to this list on Jan 6 2020 , "Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois" On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 11:29 AM Mel Beckman wrote: > This morning I received an email from someone at Cogent asking about an > ASN I administer. They didn’t give

Re: cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?

Mel, I will reply to you off list. Thanks. On 10/2/23, 11:28 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Mel Beckman" mailto:arin@nanog.org> on behalf of m...@beckman.org > wrote: This morning I received an email from someone at Cogent asking about an ASN I administer. They didn’t g