Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread Bjørn Mork
John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It is on all Linux distros: ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL So file bug reports. Bjørn

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread John Peach
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:13:51 +0200 Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It is on all Linux distros: ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL So file bug reports. With IANA? It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps,

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:13:51 +0200, =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Mork?= said: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It is on all Linux distros: ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL So file bug reports. bug-repo...@iana.org seems to bounce. pgpKVhunwIKfg.pgp

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-09-29, at 12:25, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:13:51 +0200, =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Mork?= said: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It is on all Linux distros: ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL So file bug reports.

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread Chris Boyd
On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:26 AM, John Peach wrote: With IANA? It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever else IANA might say. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4409.txt Here's what they've had to say over time:

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread Bjørn Mork
John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever else IANA might say. It's common knowledge that 465 *was* smtps. A decade ago. But it has never gone anywhere, and it is way overdue for an obsolete tag. Everyone actually caring about SMTP over SSL

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread John Peach
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:02 +0200 Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever else IANA might say. It's common knowledge that 465 *was* smtps. A decade ago. But it has never gone anywhere, and it is

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread Owen DeLong
On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:10 AM, John Peach wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:02 +0200 Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever else IANA might say. It's common knowledge that 465 *was* smtps. A decade

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread John Peach
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:16:04 -0700 Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:10 AM, John Peach wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:02 +0200 Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread Bjørn Mork
John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com writes: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:02 +0200 Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: It's common knowledge that 465 *was* smtps. A decade ago. But it has never gone anywhere, and it is way overdue for an obsolete tag. Everyone actually caring about SMTP over SSL

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-29 Thread Tony Finch
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Bjørn Mork wrote: It's common knowledge that 465 *was* smtps. A decade ago. But it has never gone anywhere, and it is way overdue for an obsolete tag. Everyone actually caring about SMTP over SSL are using STARTTLS on port 25 and 587. Microsoft MUAs only supported

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-28 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Owen DeLong o...@delong.com writes: On Sep 27, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On 10-09-27 7:20 AM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Cannot establish SSL with SMTP server 67.202.37.63:465 does not sound like a 587 problem to me. netalyzr folks? comment? Sorry, I hit send too soon

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-28 Thread Leo Vegoda
On 27 Sep 2010, at 8:29, Owen DeLong wrote: [...] 465 is not an odd-ball port, it's the standard well-known port for STMPS. It is? That's not what's recorded at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers urd 465/tcpURL Rendesvous Directory for SSM igmpv3lite 465/udp

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/28/10 7:49 AM, Leo Vegoda wrote: On 27 Sep 2010, at 8:29, Owen DeLong wrote: [...] 465 is not an odd-ball port, it's the standard well-known port for STMPS. It is? That's not what's recorded at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers urd 465/tcpURL

RE: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-28 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
465 is not an odd-ball port, it's the standard well-known port for STMPS. It is? That's not what's recorded at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers urd 465/tcpURL Rendesvous Directory for SSM igmpv3lite 465/udpIGMP over UDP for SSM Microsoft

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-28 Thread John Peach
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:39:33 + Nathan Eisenberg nat...@atlasnetworks.us wrote: 465 is not an odd-ball port, it's the standard well-known port for STMPS. It is? That's not what's recorded at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers urd 465/tcpURL

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-28 Thread Owen DeLong
Whether recorded with IANA or not, it certainly is what you will find if you google: smtp ssl port It's also what just about every MUA and MTA I've seen expects for that purpose. Owen On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Leo Vegoda wrote: On 27 Sep 2010, at 8:29, Owen DeLong wrote: [...] 465

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:30:06 PDT, Lyndon Nerenberg said: I've heard from a couple of people that the PIX will remap 587 (and 25) to oddball ports if you fiddle the config just right. Given all the other bogosity that box does with SMTP I wonder if there's truth to the rumour. (I haven't

RE: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-27 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
-Original Message- From: Lyndon Nerenberg [mailto:lyn...@orthanc.ca] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:30 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Randy in Nevis On 10-09-27 7:20 AM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Cannot establish SSL with SMTP server 67.202.37.63:465 does not sound

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-27 Thread Owen DeLong
On Sep 27, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On 10-09-27 7:20 AM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Cannot establish SSL with SMTP server 67.202.37.63:465 does not sound like a 587 problem to me. netalyzr folks? comment? Sorry, I hit send too soon ... I've heard from a couple of

Randy in Nevis

2010-09-19 Thread Rudolph Daniel
Dont know if this may assist, but here is another from St Vincent...lime network. Sunday 19th sep. 2010 http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/summary/id=43ca253f-6714-b0f7e7b0-d08e-4729-b491#BufferResult RD

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/summary/id=43ca253f-6714-b0f7e7b0-d08e-4729-b491#BufferResult wow! lime's buffering and 587 hacking make me like caribbean cable more and more. randy

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-19 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
I'm sure it's a lot better than our Afghanistan satellite systems (84% uptime on two of them, 41% on the third). Luckily we load balance the WAN ports so it's not *too* painful. Jeff On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: