Ravi Pina wrote:
News coverage:
http://cow.org/r/?5459
http://cow.org/r/?545a
And not that I expect any useful updates:
http://twitter.com/attnews
Lots of folks covering the same thing...
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=fiber+cut
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=outage
Also
Service to South Santa Clara county is completely down: Internet,
landline, and cellphones. Both Verizon and ATT are affected. 911 is
also down.
My cellphones show one or no bars. Normally they are all four bars.
The idea that all of that is lumped in one fiber bundle is mind boggling.
On
Monterey Highway I think
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone know where the actual cut is?
On 4/9/09, David W. Hankins david_hank...@isc.org wrote:
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 08:14:15AM -0700, Craig Holland wrote:
Just dropping a note that there is a
From the news coverage it appears to be in the general area of
http://cow.org/r/?545c
-r
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:11:58AM -0700, Mike Lyon wrote:
Anyone know where the actual cut is?
On 4/9/09, David W. Hankins david_hank...@isc.org wrote:
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 08:14:15AM -0700, Craig
Monterey Road just north of Blossom Hill, San Jose
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone know where the actual cut is?
On 4/9/09, David W. Hankins david_hank...@isc.org wrote:
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 08:14:15AM -0700, Craig Holland wrote:
Just dropping
Mike Lyon writes:
Anyone know where the actual cut is?
According to SF Chronicle:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTLtsp=1
The fiber-optic cables were severed shortly before 1:30 a.m. along Monterey
Highway north of Blossom Hill Road in south San Jose,
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
isn't there a mailing list for this sort of thing? outages@ I think it is?
Jared put together long time ago outages at outages.org seems to still be
active and receiving reports about this one.
List archive is at
Hey Chris,
Yes. outa...@outages.org is the one.
Alex
Christopher Morrow wrote:
isn't there a mailing list for this sort of thing? outages@ I think it is?
(not that I mind, just a little advert for the appropriate forum, and
a place that MAY have some useful info on this topic)
-chris
On
Yeah. It's on outages. Not much useful there.
Christopher Morrow wrote:
isn't there a mailing list for this sort of thing? outages@ I think it is?
(not that I mind, just a little advert for the appropriate forum, and
a place that MAY have some useful info on this topic)
-chris
On Thu, Apr 9,
nice article on bitgravity blog regarding the cuts..
http://sandbox.bitgravity.com/blog/2009/04/09/destroy-the-internet-with-a-hacksaw/
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.comwrote:
Ravi Pina wrote:
News coverage:
http://cow.org/r/?5459
Anyone know where the actual cut is?
Based on the previously posted news articles ..
First one is in this proximity : 37°15'20.79N 121°48'9.38W
Second one is in this proximity : 37°29'44.00N 122°14'44.31W
First one is along a highway .. second one is along railroad tracks.
Google
I had written in a NANOG reply:
Mike Lyon writes:
Anyone know where the actual cut is?
According to SF Chronicle:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTLtsp=1
The fiber-optic cables were severed shortly before 1:30 a.m. along Monterey
Highway north of Blossom
My cellphones show one or no bars. Normally they are all four bars.
hmmm, probably not related but could be that some cellphone operators are
restricting coverage to give priority to emergency svcs communications.
That ATT has stopped provisioning protection fiber for automatic
restoral is mind boggling.
That our crack (or on crack) govt contracting/emergency-preparedness
staff didn't demand protected facilities for 911 is another mind
boggling issue.
That there is no over-under wide-area back-up
Robert M. Enger wrote:
We posture and orate about being prepared for terrorist attacks and
natural disasters, and then events like these reveal the reality:
The emperor has no clothes.
You wouldn't have clothes either if you could double your profit by not
wearing any.
Matthew Kaufman
Yeah, that's about the right amount of time to crawl out of a man hole,
cover it back up, get in the car, drive to a 24 hour starbucks, pick up some
coffee and drive up to San Carlos, open man-hole, repeat process...
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, George William Herbert
At 12:55 PM 4/9/2009, you wrote:
From the news coverage it appears to be in the general area of
http://cow.org/r/?545c
-r
Interesting. The report I got from a vendor was that it is Above.net
with a fiber cut in Redwood City which is affecting a circuit of mine
between 200 Paul in SF and
Jorge Amodio wrote:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
isn't there a mailing list for this sort of thing? outages@ I think it is?
Jared put together long time ago outages at outages.org seems to still be
active and receiving reports about this
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, George William Herbert wrote:
The fiber-optic cables were severed shortly before 1:30 a.m. along Monterey
Highway north of Blossom Hill Road in south San Jose, police Sgt. Ronnie Lopez
said.
The fact that it's vandalism is VERY annoying. Sadly it also shows how
vulnerable
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Michael Holstein
michael.holst...@csuohio.edu wrote:
First one is in this proximity : 37°15'20.79N 121°48'9.38W
Street view shows a few manholes in the vicinity.
Second one is in this proximity : 37°29'44.00N 122°14'44.31W
Didn't see anything obvious here.
Michael Holstein wrote:
Anyone know where the actual cut is?
Based on the previously posted news articles ..
First one is in this proximity : 37°15'20.79N 121°48'9.38W
Second one is in this proximity : 37°29'44.00N 122°14'44.31W
First one is along a highway .. second one is along
: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:59 PM
To: Roy
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Fiber cut in SF area
That ATT has stopped provisioning protection fiber for automatic
restoral is mind boggling.
That our crack (or on crack) govt contracting/emergency-preparedness
staff didn't demand protected facilities
On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Robert M. Enger wrote:
That ATT has stopped provisioning protection fiber for automatic
restoral is mind boggling.
That our crack (or on crack) govt contracting/emergency-preparedness
staff didn't demand protected facilities for 911 is another mind
boggling
Yep it leads to:
Activity Type Code Desc: PROGRESS COMMENTS
Activity Type Code: PROG
OTDR readings were taken by ATT West and a cut was located 1600 ft from
the San Jose, CA central office. ATT West technicians are onsite
working to isolate the exact location of the cut. There are 4
There were multiple cuts. South san jose and san carlos. Yours would
be the san carlos one :)
On 4/9/09, David Edwards da...@reliablehosting.com wrote:
At 12:55 PM 4/9/2009, you wrote:
From the news coverage it appears to be in the general area of
http://cow.org/r/?545c
-r
Interesting. The
David Edwards wrote:
At 12:55 PM 4/9/2009, you wrote:
From the news coverage it appears to be in the general area of
http://cow.org/r/?545c
-r
Interesting. The report I got from a vendor was that it is Above.net
with a fiber cut in Redwood City which is affecting a circuit of mine
Robert M. Enger wrote:
That ATT has stopped provisioning protection fiber for automatic
restoral is mind boggling.
That our crack (or on crack) govt contracting/emergency-preparedness
staff didn't demand protected facilities for 911 is another mind
boggling issue.
911 centers can work
Looks like our circuit out of 200 paul from abovenet is back up.
-Original Message-
From: David Edwards [mailto:da...@reliablehosting.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:06 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Fiber cut in SF area
At 12:55 PM 4/9/2009, you wrote:
From the news
David Edwards wrote:
At 12:55 PM 4/9/2009, you wrote:
From the news coverage it appears to be in the general area of
http://cow.org/r/?545c
-r
Interesting. The report I got from a vendor was that it is Above.net
with a fiber cut in Redwood City which is affecting a circuit of mine
between
http://i.gizmodo.com/5205952/att-putting-up-10-reward-for-cable-cutting-vandals
r
On Apr 9, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Michael Holstein
michael.holst...@csuohio.edu wrote:
First one is in this proximity : 37°15'20.79N 121°48'9.38W
Street
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
That our crack (or on crack) govt contracting/emergency-preparedness staff
didn't demand protected facilities for 911 is another mind boggling issue.
This costs $$$ and usually isn't a problem as there are other ways to
-
From: David Edwards [mailto:da...@reliablehosting.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:06 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Fiber cut in SF area
At 12:55 PM 4/9/2009, you wrote:
From the news coverage it appears to be in the general area of
http://cow.org/r/?545c
-r
Interesting
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, Jared Mauch wrote:
That ATT has stopped provisioning protection fiber for automatic restoral
is mind boggling.
Only helps with N-1 breaks. Unfortunately, sometimes there are N+1
breaks. Check the NANOG archives, I believe there were 5 breaks in one
day in the 1990's;
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
#ifdef CONSPIRACY_THEORIST
What if this isn't simple vandalism?
#endif
If my read is correct, this is multiple cuts in multiple locations.
To answer the what-if (What if this isn't simple vandalism?) : It's not.
No RF, no WPS.
If all the base stations are knocked out in a region, and there is no
over coverage from towers out of the affected region then there are no
channels to which priority access can be allotted.
A potential remedy (at least for conventional cell phones) would be to
scatter
Scott Doty wrote:
(Personally, I can think of a MAE-Clueless episode that was worse than
this, but that was in the 90's...)
The gas main strike out front of the building in Santa Clara?
Or something else?
-george william herbert
gherb...@retro.com
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