Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:41:46 -0500 Jack Bates wrote: > Jeroen Massar wrote: > > But yes, the network stack itself is a different question, then again, > > you can just route a /64 into the loopback device and let your apache > > listen there... (which also allows you to do easy-failover as you ca

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Brian Johnson wrote: >> Last time I checked, and this may have changed, the limit in Linux was >> around 4096. > > So in this circumstance you could route a /116 to the server. COOL! These days what we might at one point have refered to as a host or server may actually be a hardware container wi

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread William Pitcock
8 steps in a worst-case scenario. The same concept applies to ipv4 cidr as well, but it is less obvious. William --Original Message-- From: Adrian Chadd To: Jeroen Massar Cc: North American Network Operators Group Subject: Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks Se

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread David W. Hankins
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 02:05:36PM +, Michael Dillon wrote: > But, when IPv6 is a bit more common, there is no need for virtual > hosters to share > a single IP address between several sites. They may as well use a > unique IPv6 address > for every single site, even if they are all on the same

RE: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Brian Johnson
> -Original Message- > From: Ray Soucy [mailto:r...@maine.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:45 AM > To: Jeffrey Ollie > Cc: North American Network Operators Group > Subject: Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks > > > But do

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jeffrey Ollie said: > But do the commonly-used operating systems support adding hundreds or > thousands of addresses to an interface, and what would the performance > implications be? I've got Linux (and even Windows) boxes with several hundred IPs bound today; I don't see why I

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Ray Soucy
> But do the commonly-used operating systems support adding hundreds or > thousands of addresses to an interface, and what would the performance > implications be? > > Jeff Ollie Last time I checked, and this may have changed, the limit in Linux was around 4096. In practice though, you also have

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Jack Bates
Jeroen Massar wrote: But yes, the network stack itself is a different question, then again, you can just route a /64 into the loopback device and let your apache listen there... (which also allows you to do easy-failover as you can move that complete /64 to a different box ;) You are still com

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009, Jeroen Massar wrote: > But yes, the network stack itself is a different question, then again, > you can just route a /64 into the loopback device and let your apache > listen there... (which also allows you to do easy-failover as you can > move that complete /64 to a differen

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Jeroen Massar
Jeffrey Ollie wrote: [..] > But do the commonly-used operating systems support adding hundreds or > thousands of addresses to an interface, and what would the performance > implications be? Remember that IP addresses are 128bits, while hostnames (the ones for the "Host:" header in the HTTP query)

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Michael Dillon wrote: > > But, when IPv6 is a bit more common, there is no need for  virtual > hosters to share > a single IP address between several sites. They may as well use a > unique IPv6 address > for every single site, even if they are all on the same serve

Re: IPv6 could change things - Was: DMCA takedowns of networks

2009-10-27 Thread Jeroen Massar
Michael Dillon wrote: [..] > [..] The > side effect of this is > that it makes the network operator's tool sharper, and able to knock > down single sites > with a /32 ACL. You actually mean a /128 in the case of IPv6, the /32 would be the complete ISP... > For a hosting provider, I would think th