Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yo Curtis! On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Curtis Maurand wrote: > The patriot act did away with due process. Yep. More on that today: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/realtime/ RGDS GARY - ---

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Randy Bush
> To expect someone not to "pressure" someone to remove potentially > damaging material is probably naïve. i believe that the material was not stored on amazon, only torrent pointers. and to cave to that pressure absent of actual legal requirement cost amazon my business. randy

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Curtis Maurand
The patriot act did away with due process. On 12/3/2010 3:10 PM, Randy Fischer wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, George Bonser wrote: As for a member of Congress pressuring Amazon, what else would one expect? If a site has content that the USG might see as "damaging", and if a US comp

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Richard Barnes
> Other possible solution would be a DNSarchive, in > the same way there is a WebArchive. Any volunteer? The RIPE REX tool provides something like this, at least for the reverse tree.

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Randy Fischer
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, George Bonser wrote: > As for a member of Congress pressuring Amazon, what else would one expect?   > If a site has content that the USG might see as "damaging", and if a US > company is facilitating the distribution of that content, sure, I would > expect member

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
For the record, I would never remove a customer because a congressman or senator asked for it, however, I would deny service to persons with outstanding felony warrant(s). Jeff On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, George Bonser wrote: > > >> >> I guess the USG's cyberwar program does work (very dryl

RE: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread George Bonser
> > I guess the USG's cyberwar program does work (very dryly said). It was reported in the last couple of days that Wikileaks could have been taken off the net but the govt decided not to do it. As for a member of Congress pressuring Amazon, what else would one expect? If a site has content

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 08:27:57AM -0600, Dan White wrote a message of 28 lines which said: > Their A records on Sunday were: (No longer working.) Several people are keeping track of working IP addresses and avertise them in the DNS (wikileaks.something.example). Other have full mirrors. A c

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Dan White
On 03/12/10 00:52 -0500, Ken Chase wrote: On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 02:26:35PM +0900, Randy Bush said: >so, if the site to which a dns entry points suffers a ddos, everydns >will no longer serve the domain. i hope they apply this policy even >handedly to all sufferers of ddos. > >if not, as a

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Jorge Amodio
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > I guess the USG's cyberwar program does work (very dryly said). Perhaps the PRC's works too. -J

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Simon Waters
On Friday 03 December 2010 13:22:19 Frank Bulk wrote: > I guess the USG's cyberwar program does work (very dryly said). They missed ;) http://wikileaks.ch http://twitter.com/wikileaks

RE: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Frank Bulk
I guess the USG's cyberwar program does work (very dryly said). -Original Message- From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:39 AM To: Jack Bates Cc: North American Network Operators Group Subject: Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blo

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
... ... The termination of services was effected pursuant to, and in accordance with, the EveryDNS.net Acceptable Use Policy. the claim is that being ddos'd is an aup violation. go figure.

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Michael DeMan
wikileaks.no and wikleaks.se seem to accept requests on port 80 but appear to be having troubles generating responses, perhaps just overloaded. On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 12:52:29AM -0500, > Ken Chase wrote > a message of 24 lines which s

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 12:52:29AM -0500, Ken Chase wrote a message of 24 lines which said: > Anyone have records of what wikileaks (RR, i assume) A record was? 91.121.133.41 46.59.1.2 Translated into an URL, the first one does not work (virtual hosting, may be) but the second does. I've f

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-03 Thread Joakim Aronius
* Jack Bates (jba...@brightok.net) wrote: > Given "These attacks have, and future attacks would, threaten the > stability of the EveryDNS.net infrastructure, which enables access > to almost 500,000 other websites." I'd say they had DOS issues with > their nameservers. They can't be expected to let

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Jack Bates wrote: > On 12/2/2010 11:26 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> >> so, if the site to which a dns entry points suffers a ddos, everydns >> will no longer serve the domain. i hope they apply this policy even >> handed

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 3/12/10 3:05 PM, Ken Chase wrote: > All our topics of discussion are merging... (soon: "does > Wikileaks run on 208V?" :) > > http://www.everydns.com/ > > right hand side. > > (sorry to shift the discussion off of uucp... long live > sizone.uucp...) There is a list of mirror sites here: htt

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Jack Bates
On 12/2/2010 11:26 PM, Randy Bush wrote: so, if the site to which a dns entry points suffers a ddos, everydns will no longer serve the domain. i hope they apply this policy even handedly to all sufferers of ddos. Given "These attacks have, and future attacks would, threaten the stability of

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Ken Chase
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 02:26:35PM +0900, Randy Bush said: >so, if the site to which a dns entry points suffers a ddos, everydns >will no longer serve the domain. i hope they apply this policy even >handedly to all sufferers of ddos. > >if not, as a registrar, i guess i can no longer acc

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Jorge Amodio
Sort of weird theory, but it sounds really strange that knowing the kind of reactions that one could expect due the content being published in the site that they have such a naive dns setup for that given domain. Unless what you are looking for is actually getting booted so you can cry loud (which

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Randy Bush
so, if the site to which a dns entry points suffers a ddos, everydns will no longer serve the domain. i hope they apply this policy even handedly to all sufferers of ddos. if not, as a registrar, i guess i can no longer accept registrations where everydns is the ns delegatee. randy

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Jorge Amodio
Everydns says on their page: "EveryDNS.net provided domain name system (DNS) services to the wikileaks.org domain name until 10PM EST, December 2, 2010, when such services were terminated. As with other users of the EveryDNS.net network, this service was provided for free. The termination of servi

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Jorge Amodio
> [TME-MBP-2010:~] tme% dig wikileaks.org > > ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> wikileaks.org > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 37692 > ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > ;; WARNING: recursion requested but

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Ken Chase wrote: > All our topics of discussion are merging... (soon: "does > Wikileaks run on 208V?" :) > > http://www.everydns.com/ > > right hand side. > > (sorry to shift the discussion off of uucp... long live > sizone.uucp...) Seems to be down here http://w

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Ken Chase
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 10:16:23PM -0600, Jorge Amodio said: >On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Ken Chase wrote: >> All our topics of discussion are merging... (soon: "does >> Wikileaks run on 208V?" :) > >If they keep going that way, soon they will be running on nuclear >power from the

Re: wikileaks dns (was Re: Blocking International DNS)

2010-12-02 Thread Jorge Amodio
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Ken Chase wrote: > All our topics of discussion are merging... (soon: "does > Wikileaks run on 208V?" :) If they keep going that way, soon they will be running on nuclear power from the hidden centrifuges in some cave. Cheers Jorge