RE: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2010-01-01 Thread Endresen Even
> > Couldn't PBB or even Q-in-Q provide that isolation as well, at least for > > point-to-point services? I must say that I don't personally have much > > experience with those, because we tend to connect our customers to > > EoMPLS-capable routers directly. > QinQ does nothing to reduce the numbe

Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2010-01-01 Thread A.B. Jr.
Linen, > As far as I'm concerned, enterprises should just connect their various sites to the Internet independently, and use VPN > techniques if and where necessary to provide the illusion of a unified network. In practice, this illusion of a single > large LAN (or rather, multiple organization

RE: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Shane Ronan > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits? > > Yipes is still offering services under the Yipes, name, at least in the > NY Metro Area. I based my information on t

Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread Shane Ronan
Yipes is still offering services under the Yipes, name, at least in the NY Metro Area. On Dec 31, 2009, at 3:32 PM, George Bonser wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Shane Ronan >> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:24 PM >> Subject: Re: Restrictions

RE: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Shane Ronan > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits? > > > > (now defunct) Yipes! NAN (National Area Network) product > > They don't offer this anymore? > Yi

RE: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Endresen Even > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:41 AM > Subject: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits? > > Hello, > > Anyone with opinions on what restrictions a service provider should and > should not impose on Ether

Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread Shane Ronan
> (now defunct) Yipes! NAN (National Area Network) product They don't offer this anymore?

RE: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Simon Leinen > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:29 AM > Subject: Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits? > > Should business customers expect to be able to connect several LANs > > through an Ethernet L2 ciruit and build a

Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread sthaug
> > Or should the service provider implement port security and limit the > > number of MAC addresses on the access ports, forcing the customer to > > connect a router in both ends and segment their network? > > That would make the service less attractive, and also more complex to > set up and main

RE: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
witch that gets the deencapsualted traffic is your business. -Original Message- From: Endresen Even [mailto:even.endre...@bkk.no] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:41 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits? Hello, Anyone with opinions on what restric

Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread Simon Leinen
Interesting questions. Here are a few thoughts from the perspective of an education/research backbone operator that used to be IP only but has also been offering L2 point-to-point circuits for a few years. > Should business customers expect to be able to connect several LANs > through an Ethernet

Re: Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread Nils Kolstein
- "Endresen Even" schreef: > Hello, > > Anyone with opinions on what restrictions a service provider should > and > should not impose on Ethernet L2 circuits provided to business > customers > wanting to connect several offices? Although different in concept, but somehwat similair in issue

Restrictions on Ethernet L2 circuits?

2009-12-31 Thread Endresen Even
Hello, Anyone with opinions on what restrictions a service provider should and should not impose on Ethernet L2 circuits provided to business customers wanting to connect several offices? The service provider's MPLS core network doesn't mind what traffic flows through the EoMPLS tunnel, but the L