Re: not excactly on-topic Server Cabinet question

2012-02-03 Thread Doug McIntyre
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:05:09PM -0600, Erik Amundson wrote: > I apologize for this being off-topic in the NANOG list, but I'm hoping some > of you have experience with the particulars of what I'm looking for... > > I am looking for a server cabinet which has an electric

Re: not excactly on-topic Server Cabinet question

2012-02-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/1/12 9:05 PM, Erik Amundson wrote: > I apologize for this being off-topic in the NANOG list, but I'm hoping some > of you have experience with the particulars of what I'm looking for... > > I am looking for a server cabinet which has an electric latching mechanism on

AW: not excactly on-topic Server Cabinet question

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Forster
] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2012 06:05 An: nanog@nanog.org Betreff: [SPAM] not excactly on-topic Server Cabinet question I apologize for this being off-topic in the NANOG list, but I'm hoping some of you have experience with the particulars of what I'm looking for... I am looking fo

not excactly on-topic Server Cabinet question

2012-02-01 Thread Erik Amundson
I apologize for this being off-topic in the NANOG list, but I'm hoping some of you have experience with the particulars of what I'm looking for... I am looking for a server cabinet which has an electric latching mechanism on it. I want to use my existing security system and prox

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Joe Greco wrote: > I guess that could be.  My own experience in the last few years is > that it hasn't been a problem.  An old Cisco AccessPath rack I use > here in the shop for testing took several HP DLnnn servers with the > HP rails no problem; it's a tapped-hole

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread Joe Greco
> > > If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by > > > using 2 2-po= > > > st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed > > > for a 4-pos= > > > t rack will not fit. > > > > Why? With *any* rack, there are always scenarios where the rack > > rails for > >

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread Randy Carpenter
- Original Message - > > If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by > > using 2 2-po= > > st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed > > for a 4-pos= > > t rack will not fit. > > Why? With *any* rack, there are always scenarios where the rack > r

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Michael Holstein wrote: > >> We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up >> at 620mm. >> >> > > A 24" door? .. dang, that's tiny. Did someone mix up OD and ID when > considering what a

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-05 Thread Michael Holstein
> We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up > at 620mm. > > A 24" door? .. dang, that's tiny. Did someone mix up OD and ID when considering what a 19" rack meant? > 1) Have you ever had to fit a cabinet through a doorway that&

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 4 May 2011 04:43, Robert Lusby wrote: > Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some > tips/experience! ;) > > We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the > bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide. &g

Re: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Ken Chase
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RE: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Alex Rubenstein
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Re: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
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RE: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Barry Shein
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Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Chaim Rieger" > Do you have any kids ? > If yes ask them to do it, leave and come back a few hours later And the Webby for Best Short Answer to a NANOG Question goes ... to. What's your 5 word acceptance speech, Chaim? Cheers, -- jra

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jason Baugher
On 5/4/2011 10:07 AM, Chaim Rieger wrote: Do you have any kids ? If yes ask them to do it, leave and come back a few hours later At last, a helpful answer! Seriously, disregarding all the helpful comments from everyone questioning your judgment in trying to move a large cabinet through a sma

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Chaim Rieger
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Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jameel Akari
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Joe Greco wrote: If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-po= st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-pos= t rack will not fit. Possibly, though you can usually order "universal" rails to fit tapped-hole ra

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Joe Greco
> Once upon a time, Joe Greco said: > > Now of course we have no idea what's going to be mounted in this, but > > it's an HP rack so I assume maybe HP servers, which tend towards the > > heavy. > > One thing about using a 2-post rack for servers that can be a problem is > that most 2-post racks I

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Joe Greco said: > Now of course we have no idea what's going to be mounted in this, but > it's an HP rack so I assume maybe HP servers, which tend towards the > heavy. One thing about using a 2-post rack for servers that can be a problem is that most 2-post racks I've seen have

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:09:33AM +0100, Robert Lusby wrote: > And, no other entrance points. Room is below ground level, with a stupidly > narrow door frame. Old client building, with a room not originally designed > for purpose. I think folks can help you find a bolt toget

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Joe Greco
> If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-po= > st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-pos= > t rack will not fit. Why? With *any* rack, there are always scenarios where the rack rails for some random item don't end up fitting ri

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Robert Lusby wrote: >We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the >bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide. > > We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up > at 620mm. Hi Rob

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Joe Greco wrote: Good comments so far. I didn't see this one though: It's admittedly far from ideal in some ways, but a great way to deal with this sort of situation can be to get a pair of two-post open frame relay racks; most of them bolt together and can be put just abou

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Randy Carpenter
If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-post racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-post rack will not fit. Get an open-frame 4-post rack. It will come unassembled. It will also likely be no more costly that 2 2-post racks. -Ran

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Dorn Hetzel
> > It's admittedly far from ideal in some ways, but a great way to deal > with this sort of situation can be to get a pair of two-post open > frame relay racks; most of them bolt together and can be put just > about anywhere. Many times we forget that these can be used as the > front and back of

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Joe Greco
> > Can you see where this is leading yet? Three obvious questions: > > > > 1) Have you ever had to fit a cabinet through a doorway that's too small? > > 2) How did you do it? Cut cabinet, demolish wall ...? > > 3) If you cut the cabinet, any tips? > > Comment: you need to recognize that you are

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:43:53 +0100 > Subject: OT: Server Cabinet > From: Robert Lusby > > Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some > tips/experience! ;) > > We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down t

Re: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread TR Shaw
On May 4, 2011, at 5:06 AM, James Aldridge wrote: > On 04/05/2011 10:53, Leigh Porter wrote: >> This may be a silly question but.. How did it get in there? > > I'm assuming that it's not yet "in there" :-) > > I'd probably knock the wall down and fit a more reasonably sized door - > 620mm (2')

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Roland Perry
In article , Robert Lusby writes Short of scrapping this cabinet If you have no other use for it - sell on eBay! That's where my spare cabinet went last year. -- Roland Perry

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Roland Perry
In article , Robert Lusby writes 1) Have you ever had to fit a cabinet through a doorway that's too small? Yes, but it was height not width 2) How did you do it? Cut cabinet, demolish wall ...? by taking the fan tray off the top and the wheels off the bottom (I realise you've already stri

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Lusby
Not a silly question my fault for not making clear - cabinet is still outside the room ... yet to go in. And, no other entrance points. Room is below ground level, with a stupidly narrow door frame. Old client building, with a room not originally designed for purpose. Short of scrapping this cabi

Re: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
I've removed the doorframe before, and usually replaced with a wider doorframe later. -Bill On May 4, 2011, at 11:07, James Aldridge wrote: > On 04/05/2011 10:53, Leigh Porter wrote: >> This may be a silly question but.. How did it get in there? > > I'm assuming that it

Re: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread James Aldridge
On 04/05/2011 10:53, Leigh Porter wrote: > This may be a silly question but.. How did it get in there? I'm assuming that it's not yet "in there" :-) I'd probably knock the wall down and fit a more reasonably sized door - 620mm (2') seems a bit narrow for a door anyway. One could of course get a

Re: OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Tom Hill
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 09:43 +0100, Robert Lusby wrote: > > Can you see where this is leading yet? Is there no other entrance that's wider, perhaps a window/skylight? Cutting-up a cabinet (only to find that it's pretty impossible to make it sturdy again) or demolishing the wall may well be more

RE: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Leigh Porter
This may be a silly question but.. How did it get in there? -- Leigh Porter -Original Message- From: Robert Lusby [mailto:nano...@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 5/4/2011 9:43 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: OT: Server Cabinet Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will

OT: Server Cabinet

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Lusby
Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some tips/experience! ;) We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide. We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measu