Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-05 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> When we renumbered LONAP from /24 to /22, we had to change netblocks too The LONAP change was the snoothest, speediest, no drama IXP addressing change I've seen. All IXP should copy their process. brandon

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-05 Thread Will Hargrave
On 5 Apr 2015, at 04:29, Paul Stewart wrote: > I worked for a provider until recently that happened to get an IP assignment > at an IXP that was transitioning from /25 to /24. It was painful chasing > down peers to get them to change their netmask just so we could connect. > This went on for sev

RE: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-05 Thread Paul Stewart
contacts of whom many of them didn't know the mask had changed in the first place. Paul -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bill Woodcock Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 10:36 PM To: Mike Hammett Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks >

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/Apr/15 02:35, Mike Hammett wrote: > Okay, so I decided to look at what current IXes are doing. > > It looks like AMS-IX, Equinix and Coresite as well as some of the smaller > IXes are all using /64s for their IX fabrics. Seems to be a slam dunk then as > how to handle the IPv6. We've got

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Brendan Halley
n single subnets, but that's v4 too. > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Valdis Kletnieks" > To: "Mike Hammett" > Cc: "NANOG" >

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Apr 4, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Charles Gucker wrote: > > I've been involved in IX renumbering efforts because exchange(s) > decided to use /25's instead of /24's.It's painful because > troubleshooting can be a little difficult as differing subnetmasks are > in play. If you have the address

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Charles Gucker
What does the community think about IXes > on smaller than /24s? > > > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Brendan Halley" > To: "

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Laszlo Hanyecz
l.com > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Brendan Halley" > To: "Mike Hammett" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 6:10:34 PM > Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks > > > IPv4 and IPv6 subnets are diffe

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Mike Hammett
om: "Brendan Halley" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 6:10:34 PM Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks IPv4 and IPv6 subnets are different. While a single IPv4 is taken to be a single device, an IPv6 /64 is designed to be treated as an

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Karl Auer
On Sat, 2015-04-04 at 18:02 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > That makes sense. I do recall now reading about having that 8 bit > separation between tiers of networks. However, in an IX everyone is > supposed to be able to talk to everyone else. Traditionally (AFAIK), > it's all been on the same subnet.

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Mike Hammett
een single subnets, but that's v4 too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Valdis Kletnieks" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 5:49:37 PM Sub

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 16:06:02 -0500, Mike Hammett said: > I am starting up a small IX. The thought process was a /24 for every IX > location (there will be multiple of them geographically disparate), even > though > we nqever expected anywhere near that many on a given fabric. Then okay, how > do

Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Mike Hammett
I am starting up a small IX. The thought process was a /24 for every IX location (there will be multiple of them geographically disparate), even though we never expected anywhere near that many on a given fabric. Then okay, how do we do v6? We got a /48, so the thought was a /64 for each. That o