? Real hardware forwarding? Where?
Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
-Original Message-
From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:cmaur...@xyonet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:55 AM
To: Heath Jones
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
Vyatta has support contracts
What's the real-world power consumption and heat like? 455 days shows
some pretty good reliability!
Cheers for the info Curtis
On 9/29/2010 8:59 AM, Heath Jones wrote:
What's the real-world power consumption and heat like? 455 days shows
some pretty good reliability!
Cheers for the info Curtis
That's a really good question. This is a small 260 watt supermicro
short depth (14) 1u system I purchased from tigerdirect.
What's the real-world power consumption and heat like? 455 days shows
some pretty good reliability!
I reached more than 700 days - then power cycle due (planned) power
maintenance works.
On 9/29/10 6:23 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
be even lower power for around $414. Its a nothing box and its not even
breathing hard. its running on a 100mbps fiber. The speed tests that
I've run show it running close to wire speed. It would probably run
even better if I were using real
Vyatta has support contracts. If you want hardware, they've got that,
too.
On 9/27/2010 6:48 PM, Heath Jones wrote:
Oh, support contract!!?
Differences:
- Hardware forwarding
- Interface options
- Port density
- Redundancy
- Power consumption
- Service Provider stuff - MPLS TE? VPLS?
Vyatta has hardware forwarding? Real hardware forwarding? Where?
Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
-Original Message-
From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:cmaur...@xyonet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:55 AM
To: Heath Jones
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Software-based Border
He must have meant the actual chassis/box/case...
Vyatta has hardware forwarding? Real hardware forwarding? Where?
-Original Message-
From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:cmaur...@xyonet.com]
Vyatta has support contracts. If you want hardware, they've got that, too.
AM
To: Nathan Eisenberg
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
He must have meant the actual chassis/box/case...
Vyatta has hardware forwarding? Real hardware forwarding? Where?
-Original Message-
From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:cmaur...@xyonet.com
On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 21:45 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Yeah, because IOS and JUNOS don't have idiosyncrasies. :-)
Not gonna argue with you on that one. However, the world has changed
since the days where the chances of clueful unix systems engineering
knowledge and clueful BGP routing knowledge
-Original Message-
From: Nathanael C. Cariaga [mailto:nccari...@stluke.com.ph]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 4:42 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Software-based Border Router
Hi All!
Just want to ask if anyone here had experience deploying software-based routers
to serve as perimeter / border
...@stluke.com.ph]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 4:42 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Software-based Border Router
Hi All!
Just want to ask if anyone here had experience deploying software-based routers
to serve as perimeter / border router? How does it gauge with hardware-based
routers? Any past
I haven't found that to be the case. The larger memory space available to
the kernel allows for larger BGP tables and filtering tables. I've seen
BSD based systems running thousands of concurrent tunnels and the
processors available in the linux/BSD space bury anything that the router
Do jitter sensitive applications have problems at all running?
What would you say is the point at which people should be looking for
a hardware forwarding solution?
Differences:
- Hardware forwarding
- Interface options
- Port density
- Redundancy
- Power consumption
- Service Provider stuff -
Oh, support contract!!?
Differences:
- Hardware forwarding
- Interface options
- Port density
- Redundancy
- Power consumption
- Service Provider stuff - MPLS TE? VPLS? VRF??
Any others?
I have seen software based routers (FreeBSD+Quagga) in production at pennies on
the dollar compared to Cisco for quite some years.
Up front, as other people have noted, you need to know what you are doing.
There is no 'crying for help 24x7'. By the same token, if you know what you
are doing
Hi All!
Just want to ask if anyone here had experience deploying software-based routers
to serve as perimeter / border router? How does it gauge with hardware-based
routers? Any past experiences will be very much appreciated.
I wanted to know because we've been asked if we want to assume
Just want to ask if anyone here had experience deploying software-based
routers to serve as perimeter / border router? How does it gauge with
hardware-based routers? Any past experiences will be very much appreciated.
Software based routers (e.g. Cisco 7200 series) have been used as border
, 2010 5:59:21 PM
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
Just want to ask if anyone here had experience deploying software-based
routers to serve as perimeter / border router? How does it gauge with
hardware-based routers? Any past experiences will be very much appreciated.
Software based
...@nethelp.no
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
Thank you for the prompt response. Just to clarify my previous post, I was
actually referring to Linux/Unix-based routers. We've been considering this
solution because presently we don't have any budget for equipment
If one has a cisco 7200, then you have a software based border router.
Considerations, for a given router platform are capacity, susceptability to
dos, features required etc. Depending on the capacity required a software
device could do fine. If it's in front of hosting environment you want
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Nathanael C. Cariaga
nccari...@stluke.com.ph wrote:
Thank you for the prompt response. Just to clarify my previous
post, I was actually referring to Linux/Unix-based routers.
We've been considering this solution because presently we
don't have any budget for
Another big problem for Linux/Unix-based routers of this size/cost is
upgrade-ability. If you need to add cards, you are going to have to bring
the router down for extended periods. Likewise, a software upgrade can be
a bigger deal than on a purpose designed router. If a router is mission
Another big problem for Linux/Unix-based routers of this size/cost is
upgrade-ability. If you need to add cards, you are going to have to bring
the router down for extended periods. Likewise, a software upgrade can be
a bigger deal than on a purpose designed router. If a router is mission
, 26 Sep 2010 17:21:57
To: William Herrinb...@herrin.us
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
Another big problem for Linux/Unix-based routers of this size/cost is
upgrade-ability. If you need to add cards, you are going to have to bring
the router down for extended periods
Once upon a time, William Herrin b...@herrin.us said:
Quagga on Linux is a fine software, but messing with the
idiosyncrasies is far more time consuming than buying a Cisco 2811,
adding enough RAM to handle BGP, configuring it once and forgetting
about it.
Yeah, because IOS and JUNOS don't
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