Re: State of QoS peering in Nanog

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/03/2011 12:50 PM, Stefan Fouant wrote: -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 10:24 PM But it also only affects priority queue traffic. I realize I'm making a value judgment, but many customers under DDoS would find things

RE: State of QoS peering in Nanog

2011-04-03 Thread Stefan Fouant
-Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 5:56 PM In an IP network, the bandwidth constraints are almost always across an administrative boundary. This means in the majority of the case across transit circuits, not peering.

RE: State of QoS peering in Nanog

2011-04-03 Thread Stefan Fouant
-Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 10:24 PM But it also only affects priority queue traffic. I realize I'm making a value judgment, but many customers under DDoS would find things vastly improved if their video

State of QoS peering in Nanog

2011-04-02 Thread Francois Menard
Folks, The Canadian telecommunications regulator, the CRTC, has just launched a public notice with possible worldwide implications IMHO, Telecom Notice of Consultation CRTC 2011-206: http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-206.htm I think this is the very first regulatory inquiry into IP

Re: State of QoS peering in Nanog

2011-04-02 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 04:00:30PM -0400, Francois Menard wrote: One of the postulates that I intend to defend, is that in the PSTN today, in addition to interconnecting for the purpose of exchanging voice calls, it is possible to LOCALLY (at the Local Interconnection

Re: State of QoS peering in Nanog

2011-04-02 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: The PSTN features fixed, known bandwidth.  QoS isn't really the right term.  When I nail up a BRI, I know I have 128kb of bandwidth, never more, never less.  There is no function on that channel similar to IP QoS. The PSTN

Re: State of QoS peering in Nanog

2011-04-02 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:00:52PM -0400, Jeff Wheeler wrote: I don't agree with this. IMO all DDoS traffic would suddenly be marked into the highest priority forwarding class that doesn't have an absurdly low policer for the DDoS source's access port, and as a result,