] Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble
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Dave Taht's question about all the redundant fiber that was put down in the
telecom bubble is a very inter
Mike asked: Well, and "better" for what purpose?
Pull string?
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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
3 9:20:24 AM
Subject: Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble
On 11/14/23 15:04, Mike Hammett wrote:
> "It would be nice if some folks on the list could
> provide some solid information, even if only for one
> large carrier."
>
> One of the busts that I
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From: "Tim Požar via NANOG"
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Subject: Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble
One consideration about older fiber, is it may not b
One consideration about older fiber, is it may not be maintained. I
know of one large city owned installation that has older fiber that is
being abandoned in order to pull higher count and better glass in. The
old fiber will end up being cut due to construction, etc. so it is
worthless.
Tim
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Dave Taht's question about all the redun
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Dave Taht's question about all the redundant fiber that
was put down in the telecom bubble is a very interesting
one. It would be nice if some folks on the list could
provide some solid information, even if only for one
large carrier.
My impression, from communications with various folks,
is tha
I started my TCP life (moving from broadcast engineering) back in about
'94ish. I was in Yakima, WA and took care of the 9 working modems for
Wolfe.net after being on connected.com and teleport.com (Portland, OR). My
girlfriend (later my wife), who I met online via the unix talk command got
hire
Aside from me pinning the start of the bubble closer to 1992 when
commercial activity was allowed, and M&A for ISPs at insane valuations
per subscriber by 1995 (I had co-founded an ISP in 93, but try as I
might I cannot remember if it peaked at 50 or 60x1 by 1996 (?) and
crashed by 97 (?)), this wa
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