* Adrian Bool
On 24 Sep 2012, at 22:42, Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote:
While you could do something similar without the encapsulation
this would require that every router on your network support
routing on port numbers,
Well, not really. As the video pointed out, the system was
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Subject: Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)
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On 24
* Tore Anderson
I would pay very close attention to MAP/4RD.
FYI, Mark Townsley had a great presentation about MAP at RIPE65 today,
it's 35 minutes you won't regret spending:
https://ripe65.ripe.net/archives/video/5
On 24 Sep 2012, at 17:57, Tore Anderson tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com
wrote:
* Tore Anderson
I would pay very close attention to MAP/4RD.
FYI, Mark Townsley had a great presentation about MAP at RIPE65 today,
it's 35 minutes you won't regret spending:
On 24 September 2012 21:11, Adrian Bool a...@logic.org.uk wrote:
On 24 Sep 2012, at 17:57, Tore Anderson tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com
wrote:
* Tore Anderson
I would pay very close attention to MAP/4RD.
FYI, Mark Townsley had a great presentation about MAP at RIPE65 today,
it's 35
On 24 Sep 2012, at 22:42, Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote:
While you could do something similar without the encapsulation this
would require that every router on your network support routing on
port numbers,
Well, not really. As the video pointed out, the system was designed to
leverage
You can avoid the giant NAT box as long as you don't have to add a new customer
for whom you don't have an available IPv4 address.
At that point, you either have to implement the giant NAT box for your future
(and possibly an increasing percentage of your existing) customers, or, stop
adding
* Mark Radabaugh
We can already do dual stack - that's not really a problem. I was
really rather hoping to avoid the giant NAT box. I'll take a look at DS
Lite and or NAT64/DNS64 and see if that makes any sense.
Both DS-Lite and NAT64 contain some form of a «giant NAT box» as part of
the
Both DS-Lite and NAT64 contain some form of a «giant NAT box» as part
of the solution, I'm afraid. Same shit, different wrapping.
ds-lite is in the provider core. talk to the telco's lawyers when you
want to use a new protocol.
nat64 is at my cpe border.
randy
In message m28vc2fglk.wl%ra...@psg.com, Randy Bush writes:
Both DS-Lite and NAT64 contain some form of a =ABgiant NAT box=BB as part
of the solution, I'm afraid. Same shit, different wrapping.
ds-lite is in the provider core. talk to the telco's lawyers when you
want to use a new
* Randy Bush
Both DS-Lite and NAT64 contain some form of a «giant NAT box» as part
of the solution, I'm afraid. Same shit, different wrapping.
ds-lite is in the provider core. talk to the telco's lawyers when you
want to use a new protocol.
nat64 is at my cpe border.
Mark was asking
On 9/22/12 4:03 AM, Tore Anderson wrote:
* Mark Radabaugh
We can already do dual stack - that's not really a problem. I was
really rather hoping to avoid the giant NAT box. I'll take a look at DS
Lite and or NAT64/DNS64 and see if that makes any sense.
Both DS-Lite and NAT64 contain some
* Mark Radabaugh
Thanks for the help. We are actually in decent shape with respect to
IPv4, probably at least 1 if not 2 years at current growth rate. We can
deliver dual stack with public IPv4/6 to customers now. This is the
planning stage for giant NAT box, assuming there are no better
The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much
documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to
point me in the right direction?
Can we assign IPv6 only to end users? What software/equipment do we
need in place as a ISP to ensure these customers can
On 2012-09-21 15:31 , Mark Radabaugh wrote:
The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much
documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to
point me in the right direction?
Can we assign IPv6 only to end users? What software/equipment do we
need in
On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much documentation
on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to point me in the
right direction?
This all depends on how your manage your last-mile and terminate users
The folks that have done the most work in enabling IPv6-only end users seem
to be CERNET2 in China. To let people get to v4, they're using what they
call IVI (get it?), which is basically NAT64+DNS64.
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6219
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAT64
If you don't mind running
On 9/21/12 6:40 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2012-09-21 15:31 , Mark Radabaugh wrote:
The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much
documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to
point me in the right direction?
Can we assign IPv6 only to end users?
On 9/21/12 9:40 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2012-09-21 15:31 , Mark Radabaugh wrote:
The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much
documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to
point me in the right direction?
Can we assign IPv6 only to end users?
Op 21-9-2012 21:42, Mark Radabaugh schreef:
Running dual stack to residential consumers still has huge issues with
CPE. It's not an environment where we have control over the router
the customer picks up at Walmart. There is really very little point
in spending a lot of resources on
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:42:20 -0400, Mark Radabaugh said:
Running dual stack to residential consumers still has huge issues with
CPE. It's not an environment where we have control over the router the
customer picks up at Walmart. There is really very little point in
spending a lot of
Running dual stack to residential consumers still has huge issues with
CPE. It's not an environment where we have control over the router the
customer picks up at Walmart. There is really very little point in
spending a lot of resources on something the consumer can't currently use.
Note:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:22:18 -0400, TJ said:
Running dual stack to residential consumers still has huge issues with
CPE. It's not an environment where we have control over the router the
customer picks up at Walmart. There is really very little point in
spending a lot of resources on
Dhcpv6, radius .. take your pick
--srs (htc one x)
On Sep 21, 2012 7:04 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:
The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much
documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to
point me in the right direction?
Can we
On 22/09/2012, at 12:04 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
Can we assign IPv6 only to end users? What software/equipment do we need in
place as a ISP to ensure these customers can reach IPv4 only hosts?
I would say you want to do dual-stack, but shift the users that don't *need*
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