Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Buffer size has nothing to do with feature richness. Assuming you are asking about DC - in a wide radix low oversubscription network shallow buffers do just fine, some applications (think map reduce/ML model training) have many to one traffic patterns and suffer from incast as the result, deep

Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread lobna gouda
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 1:07 PM To: Mike Hammett Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2 On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 6:05 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > What I've observed is that it's better to have a big buffer device > when you're mixing port speeds. The more dramatic the port &

Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 6:05 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > What I've observed is that it's better to have a big buffer device > when you're mixing port speeds. The more dramatic the port > speed differences (and the more of them), the more buffer you need. > > If you have all the same port speed, small

Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 9 avril 2021 17:20 +03, Saku Ytti: > If we'd change TCP sender to bandwidth estimation, and newly created window > space would be serialised at estimated receiver rate then we would need > dramatically less buffers. However this less aggressive TCP algorithm would > be outcompeted by new reno

Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Saku Ytti
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Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Mike Hammett
: "Tom Beecher" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "Dmitry Sherman" , "NANOG" Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 8:40:00 AM Subject: Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2 If you have all the same port speed, small buffers are fine. If you have 100G and 1G ports, you'll

Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Tom Beecher
poRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Dmitry Sherman" > *To: *nanog@nanog.org > *Sent: *Friday, April 9, 2021 7:57:05 AM > *Subject: *Trident3 vs Jericho2 > > Once again, which is better shared buffer featurerich or fat buffer > switches? > When its better to put big buffer switch? When its better to drop and > retransmit instead of queueing? > > Thanks. > Dmitry > >

Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Tom Beecher
There is no easy, one side fits all answer to this question. It's a complex subject, and the answer will often be different depending on the environment and traffic profile. On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 8:58 AM Dmitry Sherman wrote: > Once again, which is better shared buffer featurerich or fat

Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Mike Hammett
21 7:57:05 AM Subject: Trident3 vs Jericho2 Once again, which is better shared buffer featurerich or fat buffer switches? When its better to put big buffer switch? When its better to drop and retransmit instead of queueing? Thanks. Dmitry

Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Dmitry Sherman
Once again, which is better shared buffer featurerich or fat buffer switches? When its better to put big buffer switch? When its better to drop and retransmit instead of queueing? Thanks. Dmitry