this was presented at the nanog in ... SF I think as well:
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/abstracts.php?pt=MTU5NSZuYW5vZzQ5nm=nanog49
not really news...
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
Hunters, backhoes, and ship anchors are all fiber's natural enemies -
I'm surprised Discovery Channel hasn't done a special on it!
On 9/21/10 6:19 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
this was presented at the nanog in ... SF I think as well:
At 09:19 21 09 10, Christopher Morrow wrote:
this was presented at the nanog in ... SF I think as well:
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/abstracts.php?pt=MTU5NSZuYW5vZzQ5nm=nanog49
not really news...
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
Fiber Week?
-Original Message-
From: Leslie [mailto:les...@craigslist.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:29 AM
To: Christopher Morrow
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: US hunters shoot down Google fibre
Hunters, backhoes, and ship anchors are all fiber's natural enemies -
I'm
I don't want to start an off-topic subthread but I have to call
bullshit on this so-called news story. So it is my intent that
this be my first, last, and only post on this topic.
Was it addressed at NANOG (in SF?) that many rifles and amateur
shooters both, are capable of sub-MOA accuracy at
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Reese wrote:
I don't want to start an off-topic subthread but I have to call
bullshit on this so-called news story.
Several years ago I heard of a Swiss ISP having the same problem. They
built their network by running fibre along the earth conductor of high
voltage
On 9/21/2010 12:29 PM, Tony Finch wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Reese wrote:
Several years ago I heard of a Swiss ISP having the same problem. They
built their network by running fibre along the earth conductor of high
voltage transmission lines (like Energis in the UK). I was told that it
was
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: US hunters shoot down Google fibre
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/232831,us-hunters-shoot-down-google-fibre.
aspx
Repairers forced to ski in to Oregon back woods.
Google has revealed that aerial fibre links to its data centre in Oregon
were
regularly shot down by hunters
On 9/21/2010 10:52, Holmes,David A wrote:
Modern telephone pole aerial fiber uses all dialectric self-supporting
(ADSS) technology, where the self-supporting component consists
primarily of aramid yarn, the same material used for bullet-proof vests.
This makes for an extremely light weight,
How are the guys sent out on cross-country skis going to get up to the fiber
to repair it? I'm sure that the cable isn't low enough for them to reach it
without a ladder, bucket truck, helicopter all of which you don't pack
in on skis...
-Kevin
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Seth
Hi Kevin,
That is easy. Tree Climbing Spurs / Tree Climbing Spikes A quick
Google search found these for sale. http://wesspur.com/spurs/spurs.html
:)
Sincerely,
Mark
Kevin Neal wrote:
How are the guys sent out on cross-country skis going to get up to the fiber
to repair it? I'm sure that
I guess it depends on whether these are wooden poles or the metal towers
that I find around here for long haul power.
-Kevin
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote:
Hi Kevin,
That is easy. Tree Climbing Spurs / Tree Climbing Spikes A quick
Google search
shoot down Google fibre
On 9/21/2010 10:52, Holmes,David A wrote:
Modern telephone pole aerial fiber uses all dialectric self-supporting
(ADSS) technology, where the self-supporting component consists
primarily of aramid yarn, the same material used for bullet-proof vests.
This makes
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 02:45:11PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
What I have to wonder about is how often hunter-inflicted damage is
intentional
and located at the insulator (which makes for a good story) and how often it's
a totally accidental stray bullet nicking the cable many
At 11:39 21 09 10, Leslie wrote:
I don't think anyone is claiming all hunters/gun owners are irresponsible,
Re-read the article. [h]unters it said, not some hunters or
irresponsible hunters. How broad must the brush be, before you
feel personally impugned and maligned?
but, as with any
On 9/21/2010 6:04 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/232831,us-hunters-shoot-down-google-fibre.aspx
1. Deer tend to hang out in little clearings while eating. Little
clearings like the right of way clearing 25 or 50 feet on each side of
an electricity pylon.
2. Deer are
-Original Message-
From: Reese [mailto:re...@inkworkswell.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:36 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: US hunters shoot down Google fibre
At 11:39 21 09 10, Leslie wrote:
I don't think anyone is claiming all hunters/gun owners
David DiGiacomo wrote:
Instead of a rifle, how about a shotgun? It fires a nice wide spread shot pattern. I think you would be much more likely
to do
some damage (ie: knock fiber off a pole) with something like that. Here in New Jersey it is illegal to use a rifle to
hunt deer,
so typically you
On 9/21/10 2:10 PM, Michael Painter wrote:
David DiGiacomo wrote:
Instead of a rifle, how about a shotgun? It fires a nice wide spread
shot pattern. I think you would be much more likely to do
some damage (ie: knock fiber off a pole) with something like that.
Here in New Jersey it is illegal
...and I used to live in parts of Virginia where rednecks took
out signs with shotguns and no doubt now [if not run out by
gentrification] take out fiber.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 01:59:03PM -0700, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
[snip]
Long story short, you can't account for stupid.
...and
On 9/21/2010 2:53 PM, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
On 9/21/2010 6:04 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/232831,us-hunters-shoot-down-google-fibre.aspx
1. Deer tend to hang out in little clearings while eating. Little
clearings like the right of way clearing 25 or 50 feet on
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