Re: VPLS Providers

2016-01-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On 4/Jan/16 21:03, Christopher Morrow wrote: > there are complications with an L3 vpn solution that L2/vpls doesn't > bring along... and sometimes VPLS is cheaper than a wave/ptp-link ... > and all I want is a ptp You would fall under "other customers". Mark.

Re: VPLS Providers

2016-01-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:19 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > Almost every time a customer has asked me for VPLS (or EVPN), they've > been just fine with l3vpn as a suggested alternative. > > Other customers are all about doing their own routing... there are complications with an L3 vpn solution that L2/vp

Re: VPLS Providers

2016-01-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/Jan/16 17:19, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > If you're talking a requirement for connecting geographically separated > locations, there are sound technical reasons for avoiding vpls like the > plague. Unless there are overriding technical reasons why it wouldn't > work, l3vpn will almost always

Re: VPLS Providers

2016-01-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:55:24 -0500, Chris Burwell said: > Hi NANOG, > > I'm looking to solicit feedback on VPLS providers. The requirement is for > connectivity among about ten sites in North America, Going to depend a lot on what the 10 sites are. You're in Fairfax, Virg

Re: VPLS Providers

2016-01-01 Thread Jeff Tantsura
In 2016 we will start seeing first massive EVPN deployments. If you really need L2 with multihoming and BGP FRR speeds in service recovery - look for EVPN, otherwise, as mentioned below - L3 is your friend. Regards, Jeff > On Jan 1, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Chris Burwell wrot

Re: VPLS Providers

2016-01-01 Thread Nick Hilliard
Chris Burwell wrote: > I've had enough trouble with broadcast storms and other issues in N.A. And you still want vpls? Wow. If you're talking a requirement for connecting geographically separated locations, there are sound technical reasons for avoiding vpls like the plague. Unless there are ov

Re: VPLS Providers

2016-01-01 Thread Mike Hammett
December 31, 2015 2:55:24 PM Subject: VPLS Providers Hi NANOG, I'm looking to solicit feedback on VPLS providers. The requirement is for connectivity among about ten sites in North America, however feedback for providers that also extend service to EMEA and APAC would also be welcom

Re: VPLS Providers

2015-12-31 Thread Chris Burwell
ing those issues on a global scale! - Chris On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Ca By wrote: > > > On Thursday, December 31, 2015, Chris Burwell wrote: > >> Hi NANOG, >> >> I'm looking to solicit feedback on VPLS providers. The requirement is for >>

Re: VPLS Providers

2015-12-31 Thread Ca By
On Thursday, December 31, 2015, Chris Burwell wrote: > Hi NANOG, > > I'm looking to solicit feedback on VPLS providers. The requirement is for > connectivity among about ten sites in North America, however feedback for > providers that also extend service to EMEA and APAC w

VPLS Providers

2015-12-31 Thread Chris Burwell
Hi NANOG, I'm looking to solicit feedback on VPLS providers. The requirement is for connectivity among about ten sites in North America, however feedback for providers that also extend service to EMEA and APAC would also be welcome. All types of feedback are appreciated (good, bad, and any