Re: Vandalism Likely ...

2009-04-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:00:38 EDT, "Steven M. Callahan" said: > The average copper thief normally isn't intelligent enough to know the > difference between black PVC clad copper and black PVC clad fiber until they > cut it. I wish I still had the link to the pictures - one company in Europe was lay

Re: Vandalism Likely ...

2009-04-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 10, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Steven M. Callahan wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: I didn't see a smiley. And I seriously doubt metal recyclers are going 10 feet down into man holes, breaking into locked cabinets, cutting _fiber_optic_ cables (not copper), an

Re: Vandalism Likely ...

2009-04-10 Thread Steven M. Callahan
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > I didn't see a smiley. > > And I seriously doubt metal recyclers are going 10 feet down into man > holes, breaking into locked cabinets, cutting _fiber_optic_ cables (not > copper), and doing it in exactly the right points to cause the

Re: Vandalism Likely ...

2009-04-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:57 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: at least this year its been changed from "Terrorists" to "Vandals". (when most likley, its over-aggressive metals recyclers who have run out of catalitic converters to steal...) I didn't see a smiley. And I seriously doubt me

Re: Vandalism Likely ...

2009-04-10 Thread bmanning
at least this year its been changed from "Terrorists" to "Vandals". (when most likley, its over-aggressive metals recyclers who have run out of catalitic converters to steal...) --bill

Re: Vandalism Likely In Big South Bay Phone Outage

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Hannigan
The reward is effective and the one of the best uses of their funds in responding to this event. More outside plant spending is not effective when you are dealing with motivated individuals. I'd like to reemphasize that you can't spend enough on outside or inside plant to stop this type of thing.

Re: Vandalism Likely In Big South Bay Phone Outage

2009-04-10 Thread Bob Bradlee
Sounds to me like an ongoing dispute may be close to the bottom of this. http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/04/06/att-union-contract-expires-threat-to-cap-ex/ AT&T's answer is to place a $100k bounty on the vandals. The other Bob

Vandalism Likely In Big South Bay Phone Outage [Was: Re: Outside plant protection, fiber cuts, interwebz down oh noes!]

2009-04-10 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 More on this: [snip] SAN JOSE (CBS 5 / KCBS / AP / BCN) -- Vandals severed multiple fiber optic cables on Thursday, leaving thousands of people in Santa Clara, Santa Cruz and San Benito counties without cell phone, Internet and landline service, poli