Or I don't. Which is not completely impossible.
In this piece:
http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not
affecting these numbers and their pertinence to the "backbone" at al
On 13-05-14 13:06, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>
> http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
>
> they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not
> affecting these numbers and their pertinence to the "backbone" at all,
> or not much
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
> On 13-05-14 13:06, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>
>>
>> http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
>>
>> they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not
>> affecting these
On May 14, 2013, at 13:06 , Jay Ashworth wrote:
> Or I don't. Which is not completely impossible.
>
> In this piece:
>
>
> http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
>
> they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not
> a
On May 14, 2013, at 15:53 , Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
> On 13-05-14 13:06, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>
>>
>> http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
>>
>> they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not
>> affecting these nu
On 13-05-14 20:55, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> Since when is peering not part of the Internet?
Yes, one car argue that an device with an IP address routable from the
internet is part of the internet.
But when traffic from a cahe server flows directly into an ISP's
intranet to end users, it does
On May 14, 2013, at 21:14 , Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
> On 13-05-14 20:55, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> Since when is peering not part of the Internet?
>
> Yes, one car argue that an device with an IP address routable from the
> internet is part of the internet.
Can argue? How would you def
On May 14, 2013, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
> But when traffic from a cahe server flows directly into an ISP's intranet
to end users, it doesn't really make use of the "Internet" nor does it cost
the ISP transit capacity.
> Compare this to a small ISP in a city where there are no cache servers.
>
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 09:14:56PM -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
> On 13-05-14 20:55, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>
> > Since when is peering not part of the Internet?
>
> Yes, one car argue that an device with an IP address routable from the
> internet is part of the internet.
>
> But when t
On 13-05-15 06:24, ja...@towardex.com wrote:
> We're a small ISP and we reach lot of content via peering just fine. Lot of
> these contents that you speak of (Netflix, Akamai, et al) have open peering
> policies and are present in more exchange points than anybody else.
Not all ISPs are fortunat
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
> On 13-05-15 06:24, ja...@towardex.com wrote:
>
>> We're a small ISP and we reach lot of content via peering just fine. Lot of
>> these contents that you speak of (Netflix, Akamai, et al) have open peering
>> policies and are present i
On 13-05-15 09:02, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
> So it's only on the Internet if it uses a provider's transit capacity?
I made the statement in a context of "the internet is crumbling under
the Netflix load". There have been many media reports over the years of
the internet unable to cope with the
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
> On 13-05-15 09:02, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
>
>> So it's only on the Internet if it uses a provider's transit capacity?
>
> I made the statement in a context of "the internet is crumbling under
> the Netflix load". There have been ma
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:46:36 -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei said:
> Not all ISPs are fortunate enough to be in a town where there is an
> active exchange with Netflix/Akamai/Google presence.
>
> For instance, Montréal just recently oopened a peering exchange. While
> this will eventually allow local
> Not all ISPs are fortunate enough to be in a town where there is an active
exchange with Netflix/Akamai/Google presence.
> For instance, Montréal just recently oopened a peering exchange. While
this will eventually allow local ISPs to peer with
> the big content providers, until this happens, sm
On May 15, 2013, at 09:59 , Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
> On 13-05-15 09:02, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
>
>> So it's only on the Internet if it uses a provider's transit capacity?
All of this is leading me to the following conclusion:
If we, as network engineers can't agree on the nature and
On 13-05-15 14:07, Owen DeLong wrote:
> If we, as network engineers can't agree on the nature and definition of the
> internet,
> how can we possibly expect the media to understand it?
When someone cuts a cable in the meditarenean, the media doesn't say
"the internet has crawled to a snail's pac
: Rikin
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On May 15, 2013, at 09:59 , Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Netflix's policy does require a minimum amount of traffic before an ISP
> can deploy an Open Connect appliance. So smaller ISPs are at a
> disadvantage if they are located in a city without CDN presenc
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