What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
There has been a lot of good feedback regarding the deficiencies of the 7600 platform... So, the new question is: what platforms should a small, start-up ISP consider when looking to provide Ethernet services to their customers? - Scalability - 100M, 1G, 10G access speeds (backplane limitations,

Re: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread Jim Wininger
What do you consider a small start-up ISP? What kind of upstream connectivity are you considering (or at least falls under the category of small isp) bandwidht, bgp etc? On 7/22/09 9:39 AM, R. Benjamin Kessler r...@mnsginc.com wrote: There has been a lot of good feedback regarding the

Re: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread Manu Chao
Juniper M10i versus Cisco ASR 1000 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Jim Wininger jwinin...@indianafiber.netwrote: What do you consider a small start-up ISP? What kind of upstream connectivity are you considering (or at least falls under the category of small isp) bandwidht, bgp etc? On

Re: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 09:39:25AM -0400, R. Benjamin Kessler wrote: There has been a lot of good feedback regarding the deficiencies of the 7600 platform... So, the new question is: what platforms should a small, start-up ISP consider when looking to provide Ethernet services to their

RE: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
On 7/22/09 9:48 AM, Jim Wininger jwinin...@indianafiber.net wrote: What do you consider a small start-up ISP? What kind of upstream connectivity are you considering (or at least falls under the category of small isp) bandwidht, bgp etc? two or three upstreams - OC-12 to 1G to each (BGP full

Re: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread David Storandt
Why are you a small start-up and needing 600M-1G of pipe, and from 3x carriers? You can't use 150-200M via GigE ports and scale as needed (assuming you aren't bound to a SONET loop)? We started our IP backbone in 2005 with 3x 300M connections on 6509/maxed-Sup2s with 85% BGP tables and 6516-GBIC