Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-05 Thread Ray Bellis
On 05/12/2023 20:08, Christopher Morrow wrote: is the test framework documented where others could setup/run the test(s)? :) (perhaps for mr hare I mean, or me! :) ) https://github.com/isc-projects/perflab https://www.isc.org/docs/bellis-oarc-perflab.pdf Are the tests for authoritative o

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 10:17 AM Ray Bellis wrote: > > > > On 05/12/2023 12:29, Michael Hare via NANOG wrote: > > > At quick glance following the ISC link I didn’t see the compute > > infrastructure [core count] needed to get 1Mpps. There is an obvious > > difference between 99% load of ~500rps an

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-05 Thread Ray Bellis
On 05/12/2023 12:29, Michael Hare via NANOG wrote: At quick glance following the ISC link I didn’t see the compute infrastructure [core count] needed to get 1Mpps.  There is an obvious difference between 99% load of ~500rps and 1M, so we can maybe advise to not undersize ADNS if that's an i

RE: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-05 Thread Michael Hare via NANOG
x27;s an interesting comment about DNSSEC that I hadn't considered. -Michael From: Damian Menscher Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 12:21 PM To: Michael Hare Cc: John R. Levine ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server? Google Public DNS (8.8.8.8) attemp

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-04 Thread John R. Levine
On Mon, 4 Dec 2023, Damian Menscher wrote: have more redundancy/capacity). Based on these estimates, we haven't treated mitigation of small attacks as a high priority. If O(25Kpps) attacks are causing real problems for the community, I'd appreciate that feedback and some hints as to why your ex

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-04 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
ap like this? Nothing/waiting > it out? Oursourcing DNS? Scrubbing appliance? Poormans stuff like I > mention above? > > -Michael > > > -Original Message----- > > From: NANOG On > > Behalf Of John R. Levine > > Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2023 1:18 PM >

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread John R. Levine
Just set TC=1 for those clients. If you get queries over TCP then they where not spoofed. If they are using DNS COOKIE (RFC 7873) you can send back BADCOOKIE to the initial (client cookie only) UDP request with your server cookie. Identifying real DNS clients has been possible for years now.

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 4 Dec 2023, at 08:21, Michael Hare via NANOG wrote: > > John- > > This is little consolation, but at AS3128, I see the same thing to our > downstream at times, claiming to come from both 13335 and 15169 often > simultaneously at the tune of 25Kpps , "assuming it's not spoofed", which i

RE: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread John R. Levine
PM To: Peter Potvin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server? Did a bit of digging on Google's developer site and came across this: https://developers.google.com/speed/public- dns/faq#locations_of_ip_address_ranges_google_public_dns_uses_t

RE: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread Michael Hare via NANOG
Sunday, December 3, 2023 1:18 PM > To: Peter Potvin > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server? > > > Did a bit of digging on Google's developer site and came across this: > > https://developers.google.com/speed/publ

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread John R. Levine
Did a bit of digging on Google's developer site and came across this: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq#locations_of_ip_address_ranges_google_public_dns_uses_to_send_queries Looks like the IPs you mentioned belong to Google's public DNS resolver based on that list on their site.

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread Tom Beecher
172.253.X.X are Google DNS : https://www.gstatic.com/ipranges/publicdns.json 172.71.X.X are Cloudflare : https://www.cloudflare.com/ips-v4/# On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 1:49 PM John Levine wrote: > At contacts.abuse.net, I have a little stunt DNS server that provides > domain contact info, e.g.: >

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread John R. Levine
They are probably spoofed IPs. So those are the target IP IPs of a DDoS What king of amplification factor does your DNS server have? I bet with the changes you’ve made, it’s super high. People are looking for DNS servers like that. On the contrary, the reponse packets are tiny. $ host -t

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread Peter Potvin via NANOG
Did a bit of digging on Google's developer site and came across this: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq#locations_of_ip_address_ranges_google_public_dns_uses_to_send_queries Looks like the IPs you mentioned belong to Google's public DNS resolver based on that list on their site. T

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread Tom Samplonius
They are probably spoofed IPs. So those are the target IP IPs of a DDoS What king of amplification factor does your DNS server have? I bet with the changes you’ve made, it’s super high. People are looking for DNS servers like that. Tom > On Dec 3, 2023, at 10:49 AM, John Levine wrote: >

Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: "John Levine" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2023 12:48:11 PM Subject: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server? At contacts.abuse.net, I have a little stunt DNS server that provides domain contact info, e

What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

2023-12-03 Thread John Levine
At contacts.abuse.net, I have a little stunt DNS server that provides domain contact info, e.g.: $ host -t txt comcast.net.contacts.abuse.net comcast.net.contacts.abuse.net descriptive text "ab...@comcast.net" $ host -t hinfo comcast.net.contacts.abuse.net comcast.net.contacts.abuse.net host inf