Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, Matt Erculiani wrote: Linking relevant past thread about devices that don't alert for emergencies and, of course, a heated debate on if they should: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-March/199721.html Yep. I'm not naive. I keep saying something, because one

RE: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-12 Thread Chuck Church
Isn’t this a better topic for CNet as opposed to NANOG? Chuck From: NANOG On Behalf Of ITechGeek Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:12 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming At least cell phones h

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo ITechGeek! On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:11:48 -0400 ITechGeek wrote: > At least cell phones have a reliable way to know where they are at any > given moment. Only when the cell towers are working. Early on in the Santiam Fire the cell towers went down early. With the telephone poles. The Santia

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
I would trust it more than not getting an alert. Especially if it started with something along the lines of "There is a tornado warning for Springfield and North Haberbrook" and I had enough brain cells to know what city I was in. -A On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:14 PM ITechGeek wrote: > At least c

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread ITechGeek
At least cell phones have a reliable way to know where they are at any given moment. Would you really trust providers sending out emergency notifications based on something like GeoIP or based on the zipcode on the account? -

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, William Herrin wrote: tl;dr: keep your cell phone on and with you 'cause only a few things get emergency alerts and only when they're turned on. You sound like the CTIA in the 2000s when it was opposed to requiring emergency alerts on cell phones. "Its unnecessary to requ

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Jason Kuehl
Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV and Alphabet Android TV executives don't see a need to support emergency alerts on their products. You can enable severe weather alerts on both google home and Alexia. But I get the point. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:58 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > > As some of the largest wi

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Matt Erculiani
Linking relevant past thread about devices that don't alert for emergencies and, of course, a heated debate on if they should: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-March/199721.html On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:24 PM William Herrin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Donelan

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Donelan wrote: > you won't get emergency alerts on those streaming devices. > Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV and Alphabet Android TV executives don't see a > need to support emergency alerts on their products. Also worth noting that you won't get emergency alerts o

Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Sean Donelan
As some of the largest wildfires burn along the West Coast, and over 500,000 people evacuate, a reminder that streaming devices do not include local emergency alerts. Cord-cutters using Alphabet Android TV, Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV "smart" devices should remember they don't have emergency al