RE: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-06 Thread John van Oppen
: 206.973.8302 Main: 206.973.8300 Website: http://spectrumnetworks.us -Original Message- From: William Herrin [mailto:herrin-na...@dirtside.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:11 PM To: ML Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:24 PM, ML

RE: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-04 Thread Martin, Paul
[mailto:kevin.ho...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 January 2010 23:36 To: Mike Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access

RE: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-04 Thread Frank Bulk - iName.com
and to add, OTDR at several wavelengths, just in case you want to do xWDM in the future. Frank -Original Message- From: ML [mailto:m...@kenweb.org] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 6:24 PM To: Mike Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations On 1/1/2010 5

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Rene Avi
On 02.01.2010 13:22, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 12:35:15PM +0100, Rene Avi wrote: With regards to suggested EDFA amplification tricks and similar: If the requirement is not 15...@1g or 8...@10g/DWDM then I personally strongly disencourage the use of optical amps.

RE: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Carlos Alcantar
Telecommunications, Inc. 101 Haskins Way South San Francisco, CA 94080 P: 650.649.3550 x143 F: 650.649.3551 E: car...@race.com -Original Message- From: Mike [mailto:mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: dark fiber and sfp distance

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Justin M. Streiner wrote: The first thing you need to do is test the fiber with an OTDR. If you don't have one, you can probably contract a local cabling company to test it for you. Why would you want an OTDR report on

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 02/01/2010 18:37, Justin M. Streiner wrote: I'm a big believer in running my own tests when possible, and not just relying on $provider's word. It also allows me to verify what their engineering reports tell me about the condition of a span. +1 There's nothing like having hard data to

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, Justin M. Streiner wrote: Some OTDRs (or, more correctly, fiber test sets that include OTDR capabilities) are multi-function devices that will show you the overall length (assuming the span is not broken somewhere in the middle), of the span, plus attenuation and

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Kevin Hodle
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to

dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Mike
I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to light the path and provide stable connectivity. There are a lot of unknowns

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Mike wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to light the path and provide stable

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:52:33PM -0800, Mike wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to light the path and

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Friday 01 January 2010 23:19:30 Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:52:33PM -0800, Mike wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread ML
On 1/1/2010 5:52 PM, Mike wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to light the path and provide stable

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:24 PM, ML m...@kenweb.org wrote: Pardon my ignorance in this area but is too much to ask for OTDR data before signing contracts?  In addition to data on the make of the fiber if you wanted to do xWDM in the future. Yes, it's too much to ask. They won't splice your path

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 02/01/2010 00:24, ML wrote: Pardon my ignorance in this area but is too much to ask for OTDR data before signing contracts? In addition to data on the make of the fiber if you wanted to do xWDM in the future. fibre grade / quality, absolutely. otdr is difficult, because fibre providers