AS path geeks:
At the risk of invoking ire and eliciting comparisons to the
widely-reviled and growing practice of selling IPv4 addresses, I'm
wondering if anyone has sold legacy AS numbers for quick cash.
For example, NASA has AS23 among others, and does not use 23. Could
they help fund a Mars
Hi Dave,
On 17.11.2011 15:53, Dave Hart wrote:
> I recognize there's no practical shortage of AS numbers. BGP's
> preference for low AS numbers doesn't come into play much. On the
> other hand, a low AS number can't hurt at the human level when
> negotiating peering or attracting customers.
Co
In a message written on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 02:53:26PM +, Dave Hart wrote:
> I recognize there's no practical shortage of AS numbers. BGP's
> preference for low AS numbers doesn't come into play much. On the
> other hand, a low AS number can't hurt at the human level when
> negotiating peeri
Dave Hart wrote:
AS path geeks:
At the risk of invoking ire and eliciting comparisons to the
widely-reviled and growing practice of selling IPv4 addresses, I'm
wondering if anyone has sold legacy AS numbers for quick cash.
I have heard first hand stories of folks being offered 5 figures
for fo
Besides standing at the water cooler at 1:23PM on 12/3 telling AS123 jokes
I'm not sure a particular AS number has any relevance or any monetary value
unless there is scarcity.
2011/11/17 Kevin Loch
> Dave Hart wrote:
>
>> AS path geeks:
>>
>> At the risk of invoking ire and eliciting compariso
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 15:22, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In a message written on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 02:53:26PM +, Dave Hart
> wrote:
>> I recognize there's no practical shortage of AS numbers. BGP's
>> preference for low AS numbers doesn't come into play much. On the
>> other hand, a low AS n
On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
> AS path geeks:
>
> At the risk of invoking ire and eliciting comparisons to the
> widely-reviled and growing practice of selling IPv4 addresses, I'm
> wondering if anyone has sold legacy AS numbers for quick cash.
>
> For example, NASA has AS23 am
On Nov 17, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 17:32, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> ARIN policy does not currently support the transfer of AS numbers in
>> this manner. IMHO, it shouldn't, but, there is a policy proposal to
>> do so. I suggest that anyone interested in this subj
On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Keegan Holley wrote:
> Besides standing at the water cooler at 1:23PM on 12/3 telling AS123 jokes
> I'm not sure a particular AS number has any relevance or any monetary value
> unless there is scarcity.
You are discounting (pun intended) vanity and marketing. I am no
At 10:21 17/11/2011 -0800, David Conrad wrote:
On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Keegan Holley wrote:
> Besides standing at the water cooler at 1:23PM on 12/3 telling AS123 jokes
> I'm not sure a particular AS number has any relevance or any monetary value
> unless there is scarcity.
You are discount
2011/11/17 David Conrad
> On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Keegan Holley wrote:
> > Besides standing at the water cooler at 1:23PM on 12/3 telling AS123
> jokes
> > I'm not sure a particular AS number has any relevance or any monetary
> value
> > unless there is scarcity.
>
> You are discounting (pun
Since AS1 (BBNPLANET) was bought for around 666 million way back when,
as I recall..
your 1k purchase would be -outstanding-.
On 11/17/2011 01:55 PM, Keegan Holley wrote:
2011/11/17 David Conrad
On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Keegan Holley wrote:
Besides standing at the water cooler at 1:
On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Keegan Holley wrote:
> You are discounting (pun intended) vanity and marketing. I am no longer
> surprised at what people will be willing to pay (sometimes astonishing
> amounts of) money for.
>
> I suppose I can't argue with that, but anyone technical enough to kn
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 18:55, Keegan Holley wrote:
> I suppose I can't argue with that, but anyone technical enough to know
> what an AS is should know better. Also, would it really count? What if I
> opened a small ISP in some carrier hotel and paid 1000 bucks for AS 1. I'm
> not sure I'd wan
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:55:46 EST, Keegan Holley said:
> I suppose I can't argue with that, but anyone technical enough to know
> what an AS is should know better. Also, would it really count? What if I
> opened a small ISP in some carrier hotel and paid 1000 bucks for AS 1. I'm
> not sure I'd wa
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 19:08, David Conrad wrote:
> whois -h whois.arin.net 42
RFC 943:
42 THINK-AS [BJN1]
[BJN1]Bruce Nemnich TMC b...@mit-mc.arpa
I have no idea which registry was maintaining AS number registrations
when AS42 chan
2011/11/17 Dave Hart
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 18:55, Keegan Holley
> wrote:
> > I suppose I can't argue with that, but anyone technical enough to know
> > what an AS is should know better. Also, would it really count? What if
> I
> > opened a small ISP in some carrier hotel and paid 1000 buck
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 07:30:17PM +, Dave Hart wrote:
> 42 THINK-AS [BJN1]
>
>[BJN1]Bruce Nemnich TMC b...@mit-mc.arpa
>
> I have no idea which registry was maintaining AS number registrations
> when AS42 changed hands. I suppose
>>
>> Updates are processed through the standard ARIN-online process
>> like updates to any other number resources. If you want additional
>> assistance on that, I suggest contacting the registration services
>> help desk by phone (703-227-0660) or email (hostmas...@arin.net).
>
> I was looking f
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking_Machines_Corporation
Assets acquired by Sun Microsystems do maybe Oracle today.
-b
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On Nov 17, 2011, at 14:30, Dave Hart wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 19:08, David Conrad wrote:
>> whois -h whois.arin.net 42
>
> RFC 943:
>
>
- Original Message -
> From: "Dave Hart"
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 19:08, David Conrad
> wrote:
> > whois -h whois.arin.net 42
>
> RFC 943:
>
> 42 THINK-AS [BJN1]
>
> [BJN1] Bruce Nemnich TMC b...@mit-mc.arpa
>
> I have no idea which registry was maintaining AS number registrations
>
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>
> The real question is whether it was issued after HHGTTG.
HHGTTG first appeared on the BBC in 1978. Thinking Machines
Corporation was formed in 1982. As far as I can tell the first BGP
RFC is 1105 and was published in 1989.
--
Jeff Ollie
Jeffrey Ollie writes:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>>
>> The real question is whether it was issued after HHGTTG.
>
> HHGTTG first appeared on the BBC in 1978. Thinking Machines
> Corporation was formed in 1982. As far as I can tell the first BGP
> RFC is 1105 and was
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
>
> Jeffrey Ollie writes:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>>>
>>> The real question is whether it was issued after HHGTTG.
>>
>> HHGTTG first appeared on the BBC in 1978. Thinking Machines
>> Corporation was for
> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Thu Nov 17 14:53:57
> 2011
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:52:33 -0500 (EST)
> From: Jay Ashworth
> To: NANOG
> Subject: Re: economic value of low AS numbers
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dave
- Original Message -
> From: "Robert Bonomi"
> >> 42 THINK-AS [BJN1]
> > The real question is whether it was issued after HHGTTG.
>
> I think it was abaout the time they clustered a group of nine 6-node
> machines.
As long as they worked in base-13.
As it happens, Woody owns that ASN
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 21:11, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
>
> Jeffrey Ollie writes:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>>>
>>> The real question is whether it was issued after HHGTTG.
>>
>> HHGTTG first appeared on the BBC in 1978. Thinking Machines
>> Corporation was forme
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:21:59AM -0800, David Conrad wrote:
> On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Keegan Holley wrote:
> > Besides standing at the water cooler at 1:23PM on 12/3 telling AS123 jokes
> > I'm not sure a particular AS number has any relevance or any monetary value
> > unless there is scarci
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