Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-06 Thread Mike Hearn
Hello nanog, I was pointed to the recent thread about Google Groups spammers and thought I'd throw out a few comments. Keeping Google free of spam, and keeping the wider internet community on our side is important to us. By the time I looked at it, the account named by Jim was already shut down

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-04 Thread David Ford
I feel fairly sure in saying that most mailing list software, newsgroup software, and communication software in general, will allow you to preemptively add people to your address book, subscription lists, etc. Every router and switch out there allows forged packets through them, should we lambast

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* David Ford: I feel fairly sure in saying that most mailing list software, newsgroup software, and communication software in general, will allow you to preemptively add people to your address book, subscription lists, etc. But most injection points are blacklisted quickly when this happens.

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-04 Thread Jim Mercer
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 05:35:23PM -0600, Tony Varriale wrote: From: Jim Mercer j...@reptiles.org we have recently started getting alot of spam, out of dubai, from ecampaigners@gmail.com all of the spam comes from/through google and google groups. Not that I can point you in the

google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread Jim Mercer
we have recently started getting alot of spam, out of dubai, from ecampaigners@gmail.com all of the spam comes from/through google and google groups. is this accepted/supported activity on google? if not, where might i find a contact who can cluefully respond? -- Jim Mercer

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ab...@gmail.com maybe? Looks like some random spammer based in Dubai judging by the airport code. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jim Mercer j...@reptiles.org wrote: we have recently started getting alot of spam, out of dubai, from ecampaigners@gmail.com all of the spam comes

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread Jim Mercer
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 12:35:06PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: ab...@gmail.com maybe? Looks like some random spammer based in Dubai judging by the airport code. yeah, tried that several times. seems to go to a black hole. i've engaged the spammer, and they are telling me that they

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread David Ford
Google groups cautions you about pre-emptively adding people if you choose this method of subscribing them. On 02/04/10 02:12, Jim Mercer wrote: [...] and google is ok with that? geez, do no harm really? --jim

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread Jim Mercer
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 02:49:42AM -0500, David Ford wrote: Google groups cautions you about pre-emptively adding people if you choose this method of subscribing them. here, have some free guns. oh, by the way, its probably bad if you go around shooting people, so don't do that. it is