Re: Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-24 Thread Michiel Klaver
As mentioned before, check the mail-logs at your webserver, you'll find this authentication required message logged there as response to the hotmail servers trying to relay mail to that webserver. At 23-10-2012 14:49, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: authentication required is a bizzarre error to

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-24 Thread Tony Finch
Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote: authentication required is a bizzarre error to return. It's fairly normal error from an Exchange server when the client is trying to relay to a domain that the server doesn't host and when the server doesn't allow the client to relay. Sounds

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-24 Thread Alex Brooks
Hello, On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Carlos M. Perez cpe...@runcentral.com wrote: Hi, We're trying to resolve some delivery issues reported by hotmail users. Started happening a few weeks ago. SNIP === Reporting-MTA: dns;snt0-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com Received-From-MTA: dns;SNT133-W53

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Michiel Klaver
Carlos, check the mail logs of your web-server, your domain might have a primary A-record pointing to something different than MX-records. When the MX servers do something like greylisting and bounce with a temp-code (4xx) hotmail servers will try alternative records (like @ IN A) and might find

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Falling back to A when there is an MX (especially after receiving any kind of SMTP response from the MX) is an RFC violation by the way (rfc 5321 section 5.1) Even then - this doesn't appear to be the case. The bounce below was generated entirely within Hotmail. From SNT133-WS53 (a hotmail

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Carlos M. Perez
Mike, I think this is exactly what is going on. The domains that are having issues have greylisting on with the spam filtering service and are hosted on a farm of hosting servers. We have blocked port 25 on the main hosting IP of the web server, and moved the built in mail server to listen on

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Carlos M. Perez
Suresh, The affected domains have never been on hotmail, etc. We've actually held this domain/hosting for the past 14+ years on this particular domain. Yes, there is an RFC violation, and it's apparently due to the greylisting feature from the spam filtering. Carlos M. Perez Runcentral, LLC

Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
authentication required is a bizzarre error to return. Does it go away if you actually turn off graylisting for hotmail? On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Carlos M. Perez wrote: Mike, I think this is exactly what is going on. The domains that are having issues have greylisting on with the spam

hotmail.com live.com admin needed

2012-10-22 Thread Carlos M. Perez
Hi, We're trying to resolve some delivery issues reported by hotmail users. Started happening a few weeks ago. Getting immediate NDRs, and the server that is supposed to receive the email has no records of attempts. The messages also don't match what the receiving server should be sending. The