Re: misunderstanding scale, SMTP edition

2014-03-26 Thread John Levine
OTOH, a spammer with a single /64, pretty much the absolute minimum IPv6 block, has more than 18 quintillion addresses and there�s not a computer on the planet with enough memory (or probably not even enough disk space) to store that block list. Sometimes scale is everything. host-based

Re: misunderstanding scale, SMTP edition

2014-03-26 Thread Jack Bates
On 3/26/2014 12:09 PM, John Levine wrote: OTOH, a spammer with a single /64, pretty much the absolute minimum IPv6 block, has more than 18 quintillion addresses and there�s not a computer on the planet with enough memory (or probably not even enough disk space) to store that block list.

Re: misunderstanding scale, SMTP edition

2014-03-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On 03/26/2014 01:09 PM, John Levine wrote: Quite right. If I were a spammer or an ESP who wanted to listwash, I could easily use a different IP addres for every single message I sent. R's, John Week before last I saw this in great detail, with nearly 100,000 messages sent to our users per day

Re: misunderstanding scale, SMTP edition

2014-03-26 Thread Tony Finch
John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: If I were a spammer or an ESP who wanted to listwash, I could easily use a different IP addres for every single message I sent. Until mail servers start rate-limiting the number of different addresses that are used :-) You can do something like the following