Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, December 30, 2011 05:58:38 PM Vitkovsky, Adam wrote: > Actually an a Cisco presentation on Nexus 7k I asked > whether it's possible to transport the FCoE over let's > say EoMPLS or VPLS and did not get a straight answer > though that was half a year ago -but it would be really > cool t

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2012-01-02 Thread Tom Hill
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 07:24 -0500, Ray Soucy wrote: > The speed of light is such a drag. It could be worse... You could've been born on a larger planet.

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Hamelin
> From: "Vitkovsky, Adam" > -also there some attempts to actually send the information 50 micro sec back in time Please don't let the high-frequency stock traders get a hold of this. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Robert Bonomi" > > Of course there are still these issues with probabilities at quantum > > level > > I *strongy* recommend that anyone pursuing this subject read Dr. > Asimov's essays on resublimated thiotimoline. As well as Spider Robinson's codicil... C

RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Fri Dec 30 07:03:54 > 2011 > From: "Vitkovsky, Adam" > To: Ray Soucy , Tei > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:00:16 +0100 > Subject: RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org"

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:40:35 PST, Vadim Antonov said: > faster than the speed of light. (The reality of FTL neutrino thingie is still > too early to tell). Especially if you actually *read* the actual journal article rather than the pop-sci interpretation of it, it basically says "our experiment h

RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Vadim Antonov
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 14:00 +0100, Vitkovsky, Adam wrote: > Well hopefully we won't need to worry about the speed of light anymore Nope. The laws of physics as currently understood prohibit sending information faster than the speed of light. (The reality of FTL neutrino thingie is still too early

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Tony Varriale
On 12/29/2011 9:06 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: (you forgot to change subj:) On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: Next topic, ethernet is too chaotic and inefficient to deploy and support mission critical applications in LAN or WAN or data center. yes, let's get something wi

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Tom Limoncelli
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Ray Soucy wrote: > What we really need is a new method of sending data.  The fact that I > will never be able to send something from Maine to California in less > than 15 ms is not acceptable. > > The speed of light is such a drag. I propose that everyone on this

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread David Barak
>From: Jared Mauch >(I'm hoping for some good snow storms in the midwest/north east/NoVA area to put some good stresses on the network for a week or so this winter that can be measured/observed). In DC and NoVA, the network which is most taxed by snow storms is the transportation network.  That

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Jared Mauch
On Dec 30, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Tei wrote: > I am not dumb, I know turning webpages into applications make > webpages to fragile. But I am scared of javascripts. Javascript is > just too dawmn usefull now, browsers too broken (mostly IE), and > Javascript is like a superhero that fix all. The web

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Adam Vitkovsky" > Article by John Cramer says: > > At the AQRTP Workshop we considered the question of whether quantum > nonlocality was a possible medium for FTL communication. In the > context of standard quantum mechanics there is good reason for > believ

RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
only possibility seem to be modificaiton to QM equations So fingers crossed :) adam -Original Message- From: Aiden Sullivan [mailto:ai...@sullivan.in] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:09 PM To: Vitkovsky, Adam Cc: Ray Soucy; Tei; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: next-best-transport! down

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Aiden Sullivan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem -- Aiden On Dec 30 14:00, Vitkovsky, Adam wrote: > Well hopefully we won't need to worry about the speed of light anymore > > Just recently I heard about the experiments with "quantum nonlocality" > no one seem to understand how it happens

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Ray Soucy
Are you telling me that the 1,100 miles of fiber I just had run is already obsolete? Someone is going to get fired over this. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Vitkovsky, Adam wrote: > Well hopefully we won't need to worry about the speed of light anymore > > Just recently I heard about the exper

RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
Well hopefully we won't need to worry about the speed of light anymore Just recently I heard about the experiments with "quantum nonlocality" no one seem to understand how it happens but for me it's enough it works Basically when 2 photons or electrons are emitted form the same source -they ar

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Ray Soucy
PLS or VPLS and did not get a >> straight answer though that was half a year ago >> -but it would be really cool to connect hard-drives directly over continents >> >> >> adam >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Tom Hill [mailto:t...@ninjaba

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Tei
-but it would be really cool to connect hard-drives directly over continents > > > adam > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Hill [mailto:t...@ninjabadger.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:58 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: next-best-transport! down wit

RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
--Original Message- From: Tom Hill [mailto:t...@ninjabadger.net] Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:58 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 10:06 -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: > yes, let's get something with say fixed size

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-29 Thread Darius Jahandarie
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 19:11, Randy Bush wrote: > atm-2, aka mpls I knew MPLS was fishy... -- Darius Jahandarie

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-29 Thread Randy Bush
> yes, let's get something with say fixed sized packets, ability to have > predictable jitter and also, for fun, no more STP! > Ethernet is too complex, maybe something simpler? I hear there's this > new tech 'ATM'? it seems to fit the bill! atm-2, aka mpls

RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-29 Thread Holmes,David A
-transport! down with ethernet! On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 10:06 -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: > yes, let's get something with say fixed sized packets, ability to have > predictable jitter and also, for fun, no more STP! > Ethernet is too complex, maybe something simpler? I hear there

Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-29 Thread Tom Hill
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 10:06 -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: > yes, let's get something with say fixed sized packets, ability to have > predictable jitter and also, for fun, no more STP! > Ethernet is too complex, maybe something simpler? I hear there's this > new tech 'ATM'? it seems to fit the bi

next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
(you forgot to change subj:) On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > Next topic, ethernet is too chaotic and inefficient to deploy and support > mission critical applications in LAN or WAN or data center. yes, let's get something with say fixed sized packets, ability to have pred