Re: personal backup

2011-08-16 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of August 13, 2011 2:12:24 PM +0900, Randy Bush is alleged to have said: charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal backup. --As for the rest, it is mine. Personal system: Important files are on the fileserver, on a RAID-Z volume. It's backed up nightly

RE: personal backup

2011-08-14 Thread Alex Rubenstein
> > My home backups are somewhat large and not yet offsite due to their size. > > (~4.7TB). > > We (NAC) run a rather large ZFS thing to sell cheap 'scratch space.' When I say large, I think it surpasses well over 100 TB at this point. So for me, it was easy. At home, my stuff spins on disk (n

Re: personal backup

2011-08-14 Thread Dorn Hetzel
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > My home backups are somewhat large and not yet offsite due to their size. > (~4.7TB). > > I've considered just subbing to backblaze as it's "cheap" on a single-host > basis, but need something closer to ~5-7TB plus some room for growth (mayb

Re: personal backup

2011-08-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > On Aug 13, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > >> charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal >> backup. > > I've been wondering this as well. > > My home backups are somewhat large an

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jared Mauch
On Aug 13, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal > backup. I've been wondering this as well. My home backups are somewhat large and not yet offsite due to their size. (~4.7TB). This is due to both purchased di

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jake Khuon
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 09:13 -0500, Joe Greco wrote: > We used to use DVD's for off-site backup, but that's not been the best > of solutions. I've been experimenting with external hard drives but > I am less comfortable with them; I've seen too many drives fail. The > idea of letting them sit for

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2011-08-13 16:53 , John Levine wrote: >> Backups remain a tricky problem to get right. > > Yeah. I've been using external USB terabyte disks, which work OK but > are irritatingly flaky. > > I keep thinking that this is what tape is for, but every time I look > at AIT or LTO tapes and jukeboxe

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread John Levine
> Backups remain a tricky problem to get right. Yeah. I've been using external USB terabyte disks, which work OK but are irritatingly flaky. I keep thinking that this is what tape is for, but every time I look at AIT or LTO tapes and jukeboxes, they seem to be about a generation behind the disks

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread David Ramsey
Bush wrote: > > > charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal > > > backup. > > > > Very good point. > > > > For my laptops, nearline field storage includes my laptop's drive and a > > portable external drive. Online and nearl

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Dorn Hetzel
> > We used to use DVD's for off-site backup, but that's not been the best > of solutions. I've been experimenting with external hard drives but > I am less comfortable with them; I've seen too many drives fail. The > idea of letting them sit for awhile and praying they spin up later > bothers me

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Joe Greco
> On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 14:12 +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > > charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal > > backup. > > Very good point. > > For my laptops, nearline field storage includes my laptop's drive and a > portable external driv

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 13/08/2011, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal > backup. > > my life is on a 13" macbook air, all data, mail back decades (i do not > save all mail), etc. the whole drive is encrypted, my main reason

Re: personal backup

2011-08-12 Thread Jake Khuon
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 14:12 +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal > backup. Very good point. For my laptops, nearline field storage includes my laptop's drive and a portable external drive. Online and nearline home storage i

personal backup

2011-08-12 Thread Randy Bush
charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal backup. my life is on a 13" macbook air, all data, mail back decades (i do not save all mail), etc. the whole drive is encrypted, my main reason for moving to lion. i have two time machine drives, one at home and one i car