Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-18 Thread Joly MacFie
If I was Comcast and I got this deal I'd set up scripts to continuously spoof requests to Netflix, I mean hey I get paid for the traffic.. j -- --- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-18 Thread Owen DeLong
+1 In fact, I feel that at home, I need fast, reliable internet access. I wish I could get that from one provider. Unfortunately, instead, I get fast internet service from Comcast (most of the time) and I get reliable internet service from Raw Bandwidth (DSL, 1.5mbps/768k). Owen (Comcast

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-18 Thread Dave Temkin
Richard A Steenbergen wrote: BTW, they rejected my very nice comment on their blog asking if they would be willing to share the graphs of their transit provider interfaces (which are NOT peering relationships, and not under NDA) to back up their claims that the published graphs are false, so

potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Loránd Jakab
Since it is Friday, maybe some of peering experts have some time to speculate what this new approach proposed by Comcast might be, as they assert it would represent a significant shift of Internet infrastructure. http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=202121

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Benson Schliesser
On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Loránd Jakab wrote: Since it is Friday, maybe some of peering experts have some time to speculate what this new approach proposed by Comcast might be, as they assert it would represent a significant shift of Internet infrastructure.

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Benson Schliesser bens...@queuefull.net wrote: I have no direct knowledge of the situation, but my guess:  I suspect the proposal was along the lines of longest-path / best-exit routing by Level(3).  In other words, if L(3) carries the traffic (most of the

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:15:14AM -0600, Benson Schliesser wrote: I have no direct knowledge of the situation, but my guess: I suspect the proposal was along the lines of longest-path / best-exit routing by Level(3). In other words, if L(3) carries the traffic (most of the way) to the

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Benson Schliesser
On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: ... Level3 must think that their business would be better off with regulatory oversight of peering, or they would not have taken this action. And they might be correct in thinking that, if we assume the peering ecosystem is changing i.e.

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: advertising MEDs, or by sending inconsistent routes. The fact that the existing Level3/Comcast routing DOESN'T make Level 3 haul all of the bits to the best exit mean it's highly likely that Comcast agreeing to

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Steve Schultze
On Dec 17, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Benson Schliesser bens...@queuefull.net wrote: I have no direct knowledge of the situation, but my guess: I suspect the proposal was along the lines of longest-path / best-exit routing by Level(3). In

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Joly MacFie
http://fcc.gov/ NOTICE: The FCC website and related electronic filing systems and documents (except for NORS) will be unavailable beginning 6:00 p.m. (EST) Friday, December 17 through 6:00 a.m. (EST) Monday, December 20 for scheduled maintenance. :( On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steve

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Steve Schultze
http://blog.comcast.com/2010/12/comcasts-responds-to-level-3s-fcc-filing.html On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: http://fcc.gov/ NOTICE: The FCC website and related electronic filing systems and documents (except for NORS) will be unavailable beginning 6:00 p.m. (EST) Friday,

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
On 12/18/2010 12:38 AM, Steve Schultze wrote: http://blog.comcast.com/2010/12/comcasts-responds-to-level-3s-fcc-filing.html I very much doubt whether my comment on the blog will survive their moderation process, so here it is: === I am a Comcast residential HSI customer, and have many clients

Re: potential new and different architectural approach to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:07:15AM -0500, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: Note that Comcast has never said that the Level3/Netflix issue is about users exceeding their allotted bandwidth (currently at about 250GB/month for residential); presumably, were a Comcast user to use 249GB of bandwidth