Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-19 Thread Dan Sneddon
I have fairly extensive experience with the Quanta LY2 10GE switches, and they work very well for some environments. Here are some basic impressions: - Broadcom Trident chipset - Similar performance to other Trident switches (ideally line rate, but small buffers) - Cisco-like configuration int

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-19 Thread Peter Phaal
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Bao Nguyen wrote: > Anyone have worked with the switching vendor Quanta for their 10ge switching > as > TOR? [1] Their spec looked interesting and they are quiet cheap. > > > [1] > http://www.quantaqct.com/en/01_product/02_detail.php?mid=30&sid=114&id=116&qs=63 >

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-19 Thread Bao Nguyen
Anyone have worked with the switching vendor Quanta for their 10ge switching as TOR? [1] Their spec looked interesting and they are quiet cheap. [1] http://www.quantaqct.com/en/01_product/02_detail.php?mid=30&sid=114&id=116&qs=63 -bn 0216331C On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Nick Hilliard wr

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-12 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 12/02/2013 14:23, Piotr wrote: > shared 9 MB packet buffer > pool that is allocated dynamically to ports that are congested > > 9MB is a standard size of port buffers.. That's pretty standard for a cut-thru ToR switch of this style. Cut-thru switches generally need a lot less packet buffer spa

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-12 Thread Piotr
W dniu 2013-02-07 22:54, Sergey Marunich pisze: Hi Peter, http://www.aristanetworks.com/media/system/pdf/Datasheets/7050S_Datasheet.pdf Arista 7050S-64 48 x 10GE + 4 x 40 GE, price around 25k$ in gpl. Large buffers, supports MLAG, DCB, wire-speed L2/L3 (OSPF,BGP), but doesn't have any kind of TR

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-12 Thread Andrew McConachie
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 12/02/2013 12:09, Andrew McConachie wrote: > > I normally just lurk but I thought I would post to clear up the > confusion. > > Full disclosure, I am an Extreme Networks TAC engineer. > > > > The x450 does not support any VPLS/H-VPLS/MPLS

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-12 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 12/02/2013 12:09, Andrew McConachie wrote: > I normally just lurk but I thought I would post to clear up the confusion. > Full disclosure, I am an Extreme Networks TAC engineer. > > The x450 does not support any VPLS/H-VPLS/MPLS and is discontinued. It was > replaced with the x460 which does

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-12 Thread Andrew McConachie
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 29/01/2013 11:58, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > None of them will do trill. The Extreme X670 and Juniper EX4550 will > both > > do VPLS, though. The X670 won't do BGP. > > this is incorrect: the ex4550 will do l2vpn/l3vpn but not vpls. The

RE: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-07 Thread Sergey Marunich
...@gmx.com > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC > > Well, talking about HP´s A5920/A5900 series. Last time I was looking, > their virtual routing instances haven´t supported IPv4 multicast, nor > IPv6 multicast/unicast, nor any policy based routing. > > Michael >

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-07 Thread excelsio
Well, talking about HP´s A5920/A5900 series. Last time I was looking, their virtual routing instances haven´t supported IPv4 multicast, nor IPv6 multicast/unicast, nor any policy based routing. Michael

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-07 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 29/01/2013 11:58, Nick Hilliard wrote: > None of them will do trill. The Extreme X670 and Juniper EX4550 will both > do VPLS, though. The X670 won't do BGP. this is incorrect: the ex4550 will do l2vpn/l3vpn but not vpls. The X480 does vpls, but not the X670. Nick

RE: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-30 Thread Phil Bedard
Cisco also now has the Nexus 6001 but I don't know of its ability to do BGP or support things like Netflow. 48x10GE+4x40GE in 1RU. Also likely doesn't have huge packet buffers. From: Piotr Sent: 1/30/2013 5:32 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC Someon

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-30 Thread Piotr
W dniu 2013-01-30 12:59, Ingo Flaschberger pisze: Am 30.01.2013 11:30, schrieb Piotr: 2. Hp 5900 af 48xg large buffer options - configurable buffers gpl 30k$ small: Memory and processor 512 MB flash, 2 GB SDRAM; packet buffer size: 9 MB http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/products/switches/HP

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-30 Thread Piotr
Someone use this switches ? 1. Alacatel lucent omniswitch OS6900-X40 Deep packet buffers for simultaneous high-burst absorption in all ports gpl 28k$ 2. Hp 5900 af 48xg large buffer options - configurable buffers gpl 30k$ What is, exactly, buffer size ? I can't find in documentation best,

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-29 Thread Peter Phaal
Peter, Network visibility wasn't mentioned as a requirement, but it is worth considering since the ToR switches are the best place monitor server network I/O, tunneled traffic (VxLAN, GRE etc), storage (iSCSI, FCoE, HDFS etc). The Nexus 5548 switch does not include monitoring (i.e. no NetFlow/sFl

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-29 Thread Alain Hebert
Hi, I do suggest you go over EN offering with a fine tooth comb. We experienced a whole lot of issues with 6 x650: . from hardware licensing (start at shipping from the fab and not when the customers get them); . software licensing (have to license every box even the

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-29 Thread Steven Fischer
although everyone here seems to hold Cisco in contempt, the Nexux 5548 is a rock-solid switch - at least that has been my experience with it. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Piotr wrote: > > Hello, > > I looking some 10G switches, it should work as TOR or core in DC. It > should have more than

RE: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-29 Thread Summers, William
We use IBM networking (used to be BLADE networks) Rackswitch 8264. They will do TRILL, and have multi-chassis link aggregation, they call vLAG. We use this for cross datacenter aggregation. They do have the L3 features you are looking for and BGP as a possibility, but no full tables. It is a c

Fwd: Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
a...@shady.org replied: Subject: Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:25:57 + From: andy To: Nick Hilliard CC: Piotr , nanog@nanog.org Force10's S4810 isnt bad, we use these for a 10G 48 port box that doesnt require Ultra Low latency. http://www.scrib

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 29/01/2013 11:27, Piotr wrote: > Extreme 670 looks good but they have small port buffers. It can be also > some small chassis with line cards but the cost per 10G ports is too big.. the extreme x670, juniper ex4550, brocade ICX6550 and arista 7150 will most of this, and probably many others too

switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-29 Thread Piotr
Hello, I looking some 10G switches, it should work as TOR or core in DC. It should have more than 40 port 10G in one unit, wirespeed L2 L3, with virtual routers and some other ip functions like some BGP, OSPF, policy routing, 1-2U, MLAG, g.8032 (ERPS) trill-like ? Other important features a