- Original Message -
From: Jason Bertoch ja...@i6ix.com
On 3/30/2012 5:55 PM, John Levine wrote:
Actually, it's fine with us that the ignorant masses think that
usenet is dead, since it tends to keep out the riffraff.
+1
+5; September is finally over.
Now, where can I get a
- Original Message -
From: John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com
Spam sucks, but I've been posting to usenet with my real unmunged email
address since 1981 and my inbox remains entirely usable. The idea that
the way to avoid spam is to hide from spammers is so 1990s.
I've been posting to
C. A. Fillekes wrote:
I do not think that the closing of a service that's undergone multiple
acquisitions by actual competitors is at all surprising. Did the
closing of Alta Vista a couple years ago after its acquisition by
Yahoo! spell the death of internet search? No.
Well, it's a bit hard
On 3/30/2012 5:55 PM, John Levine wrote:
I thought it should have died when pr0n and
w4rez took it over (in the late 90's)..
Many of the tech groups remain quite healthy. I still moderate
comp.compilers which gets about 100 posts/month.
Actually, it's fine with us
It's not pr0n that's killing Usenet, the problem is spam
junk mail, chain letters
I gather you haven't looked at usenet for a long time. The spam and chain
letters have followed the crowd. I can't remember the last time I saw a
chain letter, and there's surprisingly little spam.
E-mail
On 31 Mar 2012 08:55:48 +0200, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
Spam sucks, but I've been posting to usenet with my real unmunged email
address since 1981 and my inbox remains entirely usable. The idea that
the way to avoid spam is to hide from spammers is so 1990s.
So desu, ne.
On 31 Mar 2012 08:55:48 +0200, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
Spam sucks, but I've been posting to usenet with my real unmunged email
address since 1981 and my inbox remains entirely usable. The idea that
the way to avoid spam is to hide from spammers is so 1990s.
LOL yer not kidding.
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Joe Greco wrote:
Oddly enough, I'd think that bits on the wire are kind of expensive.
Ports, circuits, etc. and those are on routers you own and circuits you
lease.
I can pick up a 4TB hard drive for $229. And that's currently an
inflated price; back in September, 3TB
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 09:48:58PM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote:
E-mail address harvesters (where you get bombarded with direct-emailed
crap if you dare post a message to USENET).
Insignificant: email address harvesting activity, in toto, on Usenet,
is tiny compared to that conducted elsewhere. (A
USENET is definitely not dead. I wrote a search engine and aggregator
for multipart articles posted to USENET binary groups over the course
of a year and a half at the largest providor of USENET services in the
world -- just a couple years ago. The data rates of incoming articles
was just
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. The NNTP protocol can be used for
lots of things and not just public newsgroup discussions. For a company
that has a lot of offices distributed around the world there could be
many applications for it.
Microsoft uses it for support of their semi-public product
John Levine wrote:
Microsoft uses it for support of their semi-public product betas. I
think they also use it for internal support.
R's,
John
I just did a quick count and there are ~460 microsoft.public newsgroups.
--Michael
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, John Levine wrote:
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. The NNTP protocol can be used for
lots of things and not just public newsgroup discussions. For a company
that has a lot of offices distributed around the world there could be
many applications for it.
Microsoft uses
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably deleted.
does anyone on NANOG have any thoughtful comments on this?
--
Henry Yen
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Henry Yen wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably deleted.
does anyone on NANOG have any thoughtful
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Henry Yen wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably deleted.
does anyone on NANOG have any
On 3/30/2012 4:41 PM, Henry Yen wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably deleted.
does anyone on NANOG have any thoughtful
Less, and less people keep using Usenet...
A lot of people just use Search Engine, Web download, P2P...
I guess given the traffic and data too stored, it may not be useful for the
effort to keep Usenet service running.
Alex
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Henry Yen he...@aegisinfosys.com
On 3/30/2012 4:41 PM, Henry Yen wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably deleted.
does anyone on NANOG have any
On Mar 30, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Henry Yen wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012
SNIP
does anyone on NANOG have any thoughtful comments on this?
No comment just a question... Why did it take so long?
All good things must come
- Original Message -
From: K. Scott Bethke sc...@virtuaprise.com
No comment just a question... Why did it take so long?
All good things must come to an end. and for NNTP that end was when
web based Forums software and P2P was invented. Seriously does anyone
still use UUCP for
I thought it should have died when pr0n and
w4rez took it over (in the late 90's)..
Many of the tech groups remain quite healthy. I still moderate
comp.compilers which gets about 100 posts/month.
Actually, it's fine with us that the ignorant masses think that
I thought it should have died when pr0n and
w4rez took it over (in the late 90's)..
Many of the tech groups remain quite healthy. I still moderate
comp.compilers which gets about 100 posts/month.
Those of us still doing work with USENET know that it isn't
John Levine wrote:
I thought it should have died when pr0n and
w4rez took it over (in the late 90's)..
Many of the tech groups remain quite healthy. I still moderate
comp.compilers which gets about 100 posts/month.
Actually, it's fine with us that the ignorant
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Henry Yen he...@aegisinfosys.com wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably deleted.
does
On Mar 30, 2012 3:13 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Henry Yen he...@aegisinfosys.com wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any
On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Henry Yen wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably
On 03/30/12 13:41, Henry Yen wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and
any content/data remaining after that date will be unrecoverably deleted.
does anyone on NANOG have any thoughtful
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 03:55:14PM -0500, Joe Greco wrote:
Because NNTP is still alive and kicking.
Of course it is. Usenet is *still* the best experiment ever run in
the area of scalable, distributed forums, which I think is a tribute
to the vision of its originators (and to the architects of
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Joe Greco wrote:
Those of us still doing work with USENET know that it isn't dead, far
from it, but we're aware that there's a certain amount of illicit
traffic.
A certain amount? Even years and years ago, when I last ran a server,
I'd wager porn and warez was
No comment just a question... Why did it take so long?
All good things must come to an end. and for NNTP that end was when
web based Forums software and P2P was invented. Seriously does anyone
still use UUCP for email? I thought it should have died when pr0n and
w4rez took it over (in
Just curious, what's the source of this uunet announcement (as in a
link or cite, not uunet!)?
On March 30, 2012 at 16:41 he...@aegisinfosys.com (Henry Yen) wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed
services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a
Michael Sinatra wrote:
active class newsgroups. As you can see from examples such as CS 61a (
https://groups.google.com/group/ucb.class.cs61a/about?pli=1),
Can someone help out mrshare?
https://groups.google.com/group/ucb.class.cs61a/browse_frm/month/2010-08
The above link and this one are a
George Bonser wrote:
No comment just a question... Why did it take so long?
All good things must come to an end. and for NNTP that end was when
web based Forums software and P2P was invented. Seriously does anyone
still use UUCP for email? I thought it should have died when pr0n and
w4rez
Jon Lewis wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Joe Greco wrote:
Those of us still doing work with USENET know that it isn't dead, far
from it, but we're aware that there's a certain amount of illicit
traffic.
A certain amount? Even years and years ago, when I last ran a server,
I'd wager porn and
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote:
Perhaps because the pr0n and w4rez are just bits on the wire for most
operators, not terabytes of disk space on servers we own.
pr0n, w4rez, and other large binaries encoded with UUENCODE are easy
to identify and block.
It's
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Joe Greco wrote:
Those of us still doing work with USENET know that it isn't dead, far
from it, but we're aware that there's a certain amount of illicit
traffic.
A certain amount? Even years and years ago, when I last ran a server,
I'd wager porn and warez was
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 20:40:06PM -0400, Barry Shein wrote:
Just curious, what's the source of this uunet announcement (as in a
link or cite, not uunet!)?
On March 30, 2012 at 16:41 he...@aegisinfosys.com (Henry Yen) wrote:
uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and
How many of you realize that JOPES (Joint Operation Planning and
Execution System), used by the Pentagon for command and control at the
Joint Chiefs level, uses classified newsgroups for distributing
operations plans and orders?
--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and
On 30/03/12 2:55 PM, John Levine wrote:
I thought it should have died when pr0n and
w4rez took it over (in the late 90's)..
Many of the tech groups remain quite healthy. I still moderate
comp.compilers which gets about 100 posts/month.
I'm on a handful of
On 30/03/12 7:48 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
E-mail address harvesters (where you get bombarded with direct-emailed
crap if you dare post a message to USENET).
I've been posting with a real gmail address for years, and google does
an amazing job with filtering out the resulting spam, with very few
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