messagelabs.com contact - SMTP-side domaincheck checks IPv4 only, rejects domains with first MX on IPv6

2011-06-05 Thread Jeroen Massar
As the subject states, mailer-dae...@messagelabs.com: @ford.com: Connected to 136.1.7.8 but sender was rejected. Remote host said: 501 Sender domain must exist As it obviously checks only the first MX record if there are A records, and if there are none it rejects it. This while there are

Re: IPv6 Availability on XO

2011-06-05 Thread Luke Marrott
We have a 10GigE connection with XO in Utah and have gotten little to no response from XO on our IPv6 requests for months. We finally got our L3 IPv6, but they don't have a complete routing table. :Luke Marrott On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jonathan Lassoff j...@thejof.com wrote: On

Re: messagelabs.com contact - SMTP-side domaincheck checks IPv4 only, rejects domains with first MX on IPv6

2011-06-05 Thread Matt Sergeant
I'll get someone to contact Ford and see what they are running. From google it looks like Exchange. Is this a known bug with Exchange? If so I think there's bigger problems than messagelabs :) Jeroen Massar wrote: As the subject states, mailer-dae...@messagelabs.com: @ford.com:

UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Gadi Evron
The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational implications, but every operator to see this was immediately worried. I figure it warrants a discussion.

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Bryan Fields
On 6/5/2011 19:39, Gadi Evron wrote: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational implications, but every operator to see this was immediately worried. I figure it warrants a discussion. This is

WIPv6 Day - Facebook

2011-06-05 Thread Jay Ashworth
Facebook Engineering makes their internal announcement -- to anyone who follows that page: http://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/facebook-and-world-ipv6-day/10150195205068920 -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer

Re: UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 02:39:45 +0300, Gadi Evron said: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational implications, but every operator to see this was immediately worried. I figure it warrants a

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread John Peach
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:11:21 -0400 Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote: On 6/5/2011 19:39, Gadi Evron wrote: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational implications, but every operator

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-05 Thread Jérôme Nicolle
2011/6/6 Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org: There is no reason that they can't do a similar thing to move customers who are doing things that break with LSN out from behind the LSN. Oh, you're right, they'll surelly do that. But not in time, and not for free. LSN is beeing actively implemented in

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Bryan Fields
On 6/5/2011 20:44, John Peach wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:11:21 -0400 Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote: On 6/5/2011 19:39, Gadi Evron wrote: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any*

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Bryan Fields
On 6/5/2011 20:44, John Peach wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:11:21 -0400 Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote: On 6/5/2011 19:39, Gadi Evron wrote: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any*

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message BANLkTimGkuL7ycrYG6kTC1U7OWis9dOA+YaV-YHwr+5C8=0...@mail.gmail.com , =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgTmljb2xsZQ==?= writes: 2011/6/6 Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org: There is no reason that they can't do a similar thing to move customers who are doing things that break with LSN out from behind

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-05 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jun 5, 2011 6:15 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message BANLkTimGkuL7ycrYG6kTC1U7OWis9dOA+YaV-YHwr+5C8= 0...@mail.gmail.com , =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgTmljb2xsZQ==?= writes: 2011/6/6 Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org: There is no reason that they can't do a similar thing to move

IPv6 day - request for datasets

2011-06-05 Thread Manish Karir
I know quite a few folks are planning some sort of monitoring/measurement activity related with IPv6 day. If there is any chance you might be able to make this information(raw or derived data) available to the broader network research community please let me know. Merit and the University of

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-05 Thread Jérôme Nicolle
2011/6/6 Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org: Well here in Australia I would be calling the ACCC is a ISP tried to charge extra for a address that is not behind a LSN. On France, our bigger ISP charges extra for a fixed IP. Its network beeing rather old-fashioned, every DSL (and residential fiber) line

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:48:56 EDT, Bryan Fields said: On 6/5/2011 20:44, John Peach wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:11:21 -0400 Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote: This is the same organization that says there is no basic human right to keep and bear arms. They have no standing to

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message banlktiniakw+gppcmjfs8qfbdrm7qek...@mail.gmail.com, Cameron Byrne writes: On Jun 5, 2011 6:15 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message BANLkTimGkuL7ycrYG6kTC1U7OWis9dOA+YaV-YHwr+5C8= 0...@mail.gmail.com , =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgTmljb2xsZQ==?= writes: 2011/6/6 Mark

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-05 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jun 5, 2011 7:15 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message banlktiniakw+gppcmjfs8qfbdrm7qek...@mail.gmail.com, Cameron Byrne writes: On Jun 5, 2011 6:15 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message BANLkTimGkuL7ycrYG6kTC1U7OWis9dOA+YaV-YHwr+5C8= 0...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message BANLkTik+qgTPXOwaSsHseYQbP0MBJw25Tb2bO6b3kyrKvhGj=q...@mail.gmail.com, = ?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgTmljb2xsZQ==?= writes: 2011/6/6 Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org: Well here in Australia I would be calling the ACCC is a ISP tried to charge extra for a address that is not behind a LSN.

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 6/5/2011 8:11 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 6/5/2011 19:39, Gadi Evron wrote: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational implications, but every operator to see this was immediately worried. I

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 6/5/2011 8:44 PM, John Peach wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:11:21 -0400 Bryan Fieldsbr...@bryanfields.net wrote: On 6/5/2011 19:39, Gadi Evron wrote: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 6/5/2011 10:11 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:48:56 EDT, Bryan Fields said: On 6/5/2011 20:44, John Peach wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:11:21 -0400 Bryan Fieldsbr...@bryanfields.net wrote: This is the same organization that says there is no basic human right to

Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread JC Dill
On 05/06/11 9:59 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: On 6/5/2011 8:11 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 6/5/2011 19:39, Gadi Evron wrote: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational implications, but every

Re: UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-05 Thread JC Dill
On 05/06/11 5:18 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 02:39:45 +0300, Gadi Evron said: The title is misleading, as this is more about denying access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational implications, but every operator to see this was