Re: Fwd: [nanog-admin] Vote on AUP submission to SC

2007-10-31 Thread Sean Figgins
Martin Hannigan wrote: 3. Cross posting is prohibited. I think this needs more clarification, like Cross posting to other lists is prohibited, CCing individuals are permitted. I see no technical difference between cross posting to another list or just a list if individuals. 8.

Re: Fwd: [nanog-admin] Vote on AUP submission to SC

2007-10-31 Thread Sean Figgins
Alex Pilosov wrote: 8. Autoresponders sending mail either to the list or to the poster are prohibited. I also think this needs additional language to ensure that it is within the realm of the authority of the MLC/NANOG. NANOG has no authority to prohibit autoresponses that result in

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Sean Figgins
Martin Hannigan wrote: What would work is for people to post on topic so that the list is interesting and relevant. Since what people want to talk about is mostly off-topic for the nanog@ list, does this mean that NANOG itself is no longer interested in being the venue for network operators

Re: meeting format/content

2007-10-10 Thread Sean Figgins
Adrian Chadd wrote: Today's networking area is very very different from where I'm sitting. Networking can be learnt reasonably successful from a book and consultants are called in when things aren't quite working right or its time for an upgrade. I have not met many consultants that I would

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-09 Thread Sean Figgins
Stephen Wilcox wrote: theres a lot more competition for meetings, and they have diversified - the industry has evolved. i think the SC should review the idea of 2 meetings per year tho, maybe that will bring focus and relevance. can i ask you to take it to your next SC meeting? I don't

Re: 2 meetings / budgets [Re: mlc files formal complaint against me]

2007-10-09 Thread Sean Figgins
Joe Abley wrote: No, there's a fixed overhead from having N x Merit FTEs doing NANOG stuff year-round, housing NANOG servers, being covered by UMich insurance, accounting, blah, blah. I'm not an accountant, as you can probably tell, but I think that's the right high-level answer. Just out

Re: 2 meetings / budgets [Re: mlc files formal complaint against me]

2007-10-09 Thread Sean Figgins
William B. Norton wrote: The big $$$ is to the hotel - $105K for 1 mtg. This is just for the conference rooms? That's a lot more expensive that I would have thought. The bottom line, I think you need a few FTEs no matter how you manage NANOG. No argument there. There will always be a