Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Vasiljevic Zoran
On 07.05.2008, at 22:51, Vlad Seryakov wrote: > Adding Tcl to this just makes it much more flexible and powerful but > making binary server as Tcl package and require it to run within Tcl i > am not sure i like. Well, it is not or-or. It is both. I would not just ditch the standalone version. In

Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Vasiljevic Zoran
On 07.05.2008, at 23:00, Jeff Rogers wrote: > Andrew Piskorski wrote: >> On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 05:05:13PM +0200, Vasiljevic Zoran wrote: >> >>> Does anybody have any interest in making us being a >>> yet-another Tcl loadable extension? >> >> Yes. From his past comments on the AOLserver list, J

Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Vasiljevic Zoran
On 07.05.2008, at 23:17, Andrew Piskorski wrote: > AFAIK, it is impossible to run either AOLserver or Naviserver without > at least one Tcl interpreter loaded in there somewhere. It is also > impossible to compile it without linking against Tcl. > I think what Vlad wanted to say is that he need

Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 04:51:27PM -0400, Vlad Seryakov wrote: > On other hand, as a server with binary modules i can use it completely > without Tcl or Web/ADP stuff. AFAIK, it is impossible to run either AOLserver or Naviserver without at least one Tcl interpreter loaded in there somewhere. It

Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Jeff Rogers
Andrew Piskorski wrote: > On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 05:05:13PM +0200, Vasiljevic Zoran wrote: > >> Does anybody have any interest in making us being a >> yet-another Tcl loadable extension? > > Yes. From his past comments on the AOLserver list, Jeff Hobbs would > probably be interested too. Rathe

Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Vlad Seryakov
On other hand, as a server with binary modules i can use it completely without Tcl or Web/ADP stuff. As swiss-army server framework it can be very useful without using Tcl, and i actually use it this way in multiple places. Adding Tcl to this just makes it much more flexible and powerful but m

Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 05:05:13PM +0200, Vasiljevic Zoran wrote: > Does anybody have any interest in making us being a > yet-another Tcl loadable extension? Yes. From his past comments on the AOLserver list, Jeff Hobbs would probably be interested too. -- Andrew Piskorski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [naviserver-devel] drop CVS

2008-05-07 Thread Vasiljevic Zoran
On 07.05.2008, at 19:56, Vlad Seryakov wrote: > system may attract or make it easy to handle > access to more developers I doubt that. You could do that only if you make the server to be (one of the platforms) for some Web toolkits like ACS or Ruby on Rails etc pp. And, optionaly, if you make it

Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Vasiljevic Zoran
On 07.05.2008, at 19:15, Vlad Seryakov wrote: > Once you started the server, it is not Tcl package anymore, need > nscp to > access it. Depends. If you think in the box, yes. If you step out of the box then yes and no. What I actually think is to marry the rw-config module with the code and

Re: [naviserver-devel] drop CVS

2008-05-07 Thread Vlad Seryakov
One benefit i can see is not immediate and obvious but having more flexible source control system may attract or make it easy to handle access to more developers, easy to revert unneeded changes, as Stephan pointed, better patch control and changsets. Yes, it will require some learning but not

Re: [naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Vlad Seryakov
Once you started the server, it is not Tcl package anymore, need nscp to access it. Or i am not following? Vasiljevic Zoran wrote: > Hi! > > I believe we talked about that some time ago already. > Does anybody have any interest in making us being a > yet-another Tcl loadable extension? One that

[naviserver-devel] ns as loadable extension

2008-05-07 Thread Vasiljevic Zoran
Hi! I believe we talked about that some time ago already. Does anybody have any interest in making us being a yet-another Tcl loadable extension? One that you could for example "package require naviserver" and then configure and start/manage several virtual http servers from within a Tcl environme

Re: [naviserver-devel] drop CVS

2008-05-07 Thread Gustaf Neumann
Let me point out another nice feature of git: git provides server-support to behave to clients like a cvs and/or svn server. This means, one can access the git repository from cvs or svn (or git) clients. Not sure if this is an issue, but a user who does not want to learn new commands can contiune

Re: [naviserver-devel] drop CVS

2008-05-07 Thread Ibrahim Tannir
FWIW, to let my paranoia out: I don't like SVN because it obscures and packs the whole repository into one big file, which IMHO overshadows all its benifits. I've been able in tha past to resolve the consequences of quite a few CVS bugs, due to the open structure of its repository. OTOH, if w

Re: [naviserver-devel] drop CVS (was: [AOLSERVER] nsdbi database driver interface 0.1)

2008-05-07 Thread Vasiljevic Zoran
On 06.05.2008, at 01:56, Stephen Deasey wrote: > I am too lazy to write that essay. You should try it out to see what > you're missing out on. Here's a starter: That _was_ the essay! Thanks for going to such extent to show me what SVN can do. I recall watching a video on YouTube with Linus Tho