Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread Instrument Resources of America
In the specs it states max Volts between any of the internal elements is 1000V, I wonder if the getter helped to achieve that spec, by removing residual oxygen??? Ira. On 3/15/2016 9:02 PM, Marcin Adamski wrote: Have no answer, except that if they wanted to have a good vacuum why not to u

Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread JohnK
[yes, my link included one of those too. Maybe the "see also" is a little buried.] jk - Original Message - From: "Marcin Adamski" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS? Have no answer, except that if they wanted to have a good vacuum wh

Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread Marcin Adamski
Have no answer, except that if they wanted to have a good vacuum why not to use getter. But why do they needed the vacuum envelope at all? There is a version of this stabilizer without the envelope. Just four tubes packed into a single base: http://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_zz1031.html Mar

Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread JohnK
OK... so why a getter in this one? All the little NEON tubes are each already sealed. http://www.tubecollector.org/zz1030.htm John K - Original Message - From: Instrument Resources of America To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:18 AM Subject: Re

Re: [neonixie-l] Russian EG-5 (ЕГ-5) prototype dekatron manufactured in 1959 up and running.

2016-03-15 Thread Marcin Adamski
Great find! Looks like long-lost child of OG-3 and A-201. Where on the Earth are you finding all those awesome and unusual tubes? Marcin BTW, we have a proof of the universal quality of the True Technology! If we stayed with the hot-rod-in-the-vacum light there would be no flickering. All thos

Re: [neonixie-l] Why were dekatrons still manufactured as recently as 1992 ?

2016-03-15 Thread Marcin Adamski
Well, B-52 Stratofortress are early fifties design. In service at lest up till 2050. ;) The Russian dekatrons: My guess is they were made as spares for the forces. I believe US was/is doing the same. Not to mention that the vacuum technology is so much more immune to nuclear attack (or so I was

Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread Instrument Resources of America
As I mentioned in an earlier post today getters are flashed inside of 'VACUUM TUBES' to absorb residual 'OXYGEN' after pump down, and possibly some external R.F. heating of the internal elements to further degas. OXYGEN is extremely detrimental to 'hot cathodes', and 'hot filaments', and will

Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread Instrument Resources of America
As I understand it, a getter's primary purpose, within a 'VACUUM TUBE' is to absorb an remaining 'OXYGEN' from within the envelope. Ira. On 3/15/2016 10:45 AM, Dekatron42 wrote: Dekatrons use a getter that is flashed and they contain similar gas mixtures compared with Nixies, as I understand

[neonixie-l] Why were dekatrons still manufactured as recently as 1992 ?

2016-03-15 Thread gregebert
I bought a few spare A-101's and at least one had a 1992 manufacturing date. So I'm wondering what could the former Soviet Union have needed with such old technology in the 1990's ? I would have expected that they would have replaced all their dekatron equipment by then, so even spare tubes shou

[neonixie-l] Russian EG-5 (ЕГ-5) prototype dekatron manufactured in 1959 up and running.

2016-03-15 Thread Dekatron42
Hi, I got hold of this nice Russian EG-5 (ЕГ-5) prototype dekatron and after having peered down the glass envelope and hooked it up as a normal GC10B it started to run without a hitch, I made a short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNNQio0N1FQ Unfortunately my new LED lamps flicker and

Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread Dekatron42
Dekatrons use a getter that is flashed and they contain similar gas mixtures compared with Nixies, as I understand it the getter is there to absorb impurities from the materials used whereas the mercury is there to extend the life of the Nixie as it reduces the sputtering. /Martin On Tuesday,

Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread jb-electronics
I don't think it would be counter-productive, see e.g. the XN-1. Neon and argon are noble gases and hence they almost don't interact with getter material, as far as I know. Jens On 3/15/2016 1:23 PM, Nick wrote: Why would they have a getter? An Hg pill that needs to be vaporized, sure. But a

Re: [neonixie-l] Used or NOS?

2016-03-15 Thread Nick
Why would they have a getter? An Hg pill that needs to be vaporized, sure. But a getter? They are used to remove any stray gas molecules given off by the glass or internal structures due to heat & time. Nixies are gassed tubes by definition - a getter would be counter-productive - even during b