Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-05-02 Thread Instrument Resources of America
: dinsdag 29 april 2014 5:21 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Hello John, I do not know all of the in's and out's of it. But I do recall that a group of early television collectors had tried in vain to preserve several of the original 15 inch

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread JohnK
: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Quoth JohnK at 2014-04-29 11:37 ... ... What is the chemical after later exposure to air? And is oxygen the problem? (And does the problem apply to more recent CRTs.) Just pondering whether it might be possible to broach the vacuum under a gas flood

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Per Jensen
Den 28/04/2014 kl. 22.47 skrev Matthew Smith m...@smiffytech.com: Quoth Tidak Ada at 2014-04-29 06:13 ... I once opened a 50 cm B/W picture tube to make a lamp of it. I carefully packed the tube in thick blankets and then filed off the exhaust nipple. About one minute of hissing and the

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Smith m...@smiffytech.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Quoth JohnK at 2014-04-29 11:37 ... ... What is the chemical after later exposure to air? And is oxygen the problem? (And does the problem apply to more

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread NeonJohn
,Reinhold. John K. - Original Message - From: Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Also!!! It is my understanding from being a member of T.C.A

RE: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Tidak Ada
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Also!!! It is my understanding from being a member of T.C.A. Tube Collectors Association, another Yahoo group, that once the 'cathode' of the gun is exposed to 'air' it is DESTROYED, and can NOT be used again.Ira. -- You

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Instrument Resources of America
provider was down [e] -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Instrument Resources of America Sent: dinsdag 29 april 2014 1:42 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Also!!! It is my

RE: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread B Otto
Well, none of my hobbies are cheap. Energy efficient either! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread B Otto
About a decade ago I made some incandescent light bulbs out of surplus labware for a client. I made my prototypes with 250 ml e flasks and the final bulbs with 2,000 ml flasks. I had great luck working with the pyrex glass without a cooling oven. Two of the three finals burned for over 200

RE: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread Tidak Ada
[mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Instrument Resources of America Sent: dinsdag 29 april 2014 5:21 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Hello John, I do not know all of the in's and out's of it. But I do recall that a group of early television

[neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread B Otto
Reading the thread on fake gigantic nixies got me thinking about the possibilities or REAL gigantic neon applications. Is there a practical limit on how large a neon indicator could be? Using traditional methods, would it be possible to make a neon glow lamp from say a five gallon carboy?

RE: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread Tidak Ada
Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of B Otto Sent: maandag 28 april 2014 14:05 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Reading the thread on fake gigantic nixies got me thinking about the possibilities

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread Dalibor Farný
- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of B Otto Sent: maandag 28 april 2014 14:05 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Reading the thread on fake gigantic nixies got me thinking about the possibilities or REAL

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread NeonJohn
On 04/28/2014 08:05 AM, B Otto wrote: Reading the thread on fake gigantic nixies got me thinking about the possibilities or REAL gigantic neon applications. Is there a practical limit on how large a neon indicator could be? Using traditional methods, would it be possible to make a neon glow

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread gregeb...@hotmail.com
But, unlike a picture tube, you could put internal support structures within the tube which would make it unnecessary to have really thick glass in specific areas. Then it becomes a matter of how you would glass-cast it and insert the cathodes. A 7-segment giant nixie would be relatively easy

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread Dalibor Farný
Common nixie tube envelopes have advantage of egg-like shape, the stress is uniformly distributed in the glass.. Picture tubes have one side flat what makes the shape more prone to implosion.. Also proper annealing will be important. Good remark anyway! Dalibor 2014-04-28 18:32 GMT+02:00

RE: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread Tidak Ada
[mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gregeb...@hotmail.com Sent: maandag 28 april 2014 18:33 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? But, unlike a picture tube, you could put internal support structures within the tube which would make it unnecessary

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Tidak Ada at 2014-04-29 06:13 ... I once opened a 50 cm B/W picture tube to make a lamp of it. I carefully packed the tube in thick blankets and then filed off the exhaust nipple. About one minute of hissing and the pressure was equilibrated. No danger at all! Aha! I wanted to get the

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread NeonJohn
On 04/28/2014 04:47 PM, Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Tidak Ada at 2014-04-29 06:13 ... I once opened a 50 cm B/W picture tube to make a lamp of it. I carefully packed the tube in thick blankets and then filed off the exhaust nipple. About one minute of hissing and the pressure was

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Also!!! It is my understanding from being a member of T.C.A. Tube Collectors Association, another Yahoo group, that once the 'cathode' of the gun is exposed to 'air' it is DESTROYED, and can NOT be used again.Ira. On 4/28/2014 4:18 PM, NeonJohn wrote: On 04/28/2014 04:47 PM, Matthew

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread JohnK
Technology for Electron Tubes], Walter H Kohl, 1960,Reinhold. John K. - Original Message - From: Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Also!!! It is my

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread Instrument Resources of America
. John K. - Original Message - From: Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Also!!! It is my understanding from being a member of T.C.A. Tube Collectors

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth JohnK at 2014-04-29 11:37 ... ... What is the chemical after later exposure to air? And is oxygen the problem? (And does the problem apply to more recent CRTs.) Just pondering whether it might be possible to broach the vacuum under a gas flood (like Ar/CO2) to mitigate damage. --