Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-08 Thread Adrian Godwin
Here's another approach, not really a viable retrofit to a nixie unless an extra electrode fixed to the glass might work ? https://youtu.be/y2_dTEXptZQ?t=227 On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 9:12 PM Jeff Walton wrote: > > Here is a closeup of the tube with a UV light source assisting... 395nM > LEDs.

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-04 Thread Tidak Ada
@googlegroups.com] Namens Christian Riise Wagner Verzonden: maandag 4 december 2023 8:55 Aan: neonixie-l Onderwerp: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room You won't generate ozone with 365nm. You'd need shorter wavelength UVC for that. søndag den 3. december 2023 kl. 09.25.35

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-03 Thread Christian Riise Wagner
You won't generate ozone with 365nm. You'd need shorter wavelength UVC for that. søndag den 3. december 2023 kl. 09.25.35 UTC+1 skrev Tidak Ada: > Hi Jeff, good to hear you are content with my suggestion. > > Two remarks: I bought at a time small 365nm transmission filter from a > seller at

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-03 Thread Tidak Ada
Hi Jeff, good to hear you are content with my suggestion. Two remarks: I bought at a time small 365nm transmission filter from a seller at either AliExpress or Banggood. That reduces the amount of visible light considerabele. Second, make that the UV flash only during a short period around

[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-02 Thread Jeff Walton
I've done some testing with common 3mm UV LEDs that are in the 395nM range. Running them at ~5mA provides a dim purple color light that when placed under or in front of the tube actually makes the reliability of the ignition very stable. Even in a fully darkened room, the segments and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-01 Thread Paul Andrews
You could have a high value resistor permanently connected between the cathodes and ground so there is always a minimum current flowing through them? On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 8:30:47 AM UTC-5 Robert G. Schaffrath wrote: > It would an interesting idea but the glass would block the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-01 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
It would an interesting idea but the glass would block the ionizing radiation (alpha and probably most beta particles from daughter elements in the ore). I have the same issue with B-7971's in a dark room. Unless I shine a flashlight at them, it takes them a bit of time to turn on from a cold

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Nicholas Stock
Some tubes were doped with Kr85. They have little radiation signs on them 122P224, Paul has a nice write up here ( https://www.nixies.us/bwg_gallery/122p224/). Half life is 10 years, so a lot of decay since manufacture On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:42 PM liam bartosiewicz <

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread liam bartosiewicz
If I remember correctly, there were some tubes manufactured that had a small external radioactive source to make them more reliable. It wouldn’t be very practical, or safe for that matter, but a radioactive nixie clock does sound pretty cool.On Nov 30, 2023, at 1:43 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote:May

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread gregebert
I've never had problems with tubes failing to ignite, perhaps because I use higher-than-minimum supply voltages, typically around +200VDC. My first clock uses 340V. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 1:46:25 PM UTC-8 Jeff Walton wrote: > Give me the glow, Nick! > > -- You received this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jeff Walton
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[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jeff Walton
I can try to modify the Omnixie HV module if higher voltage shows promise. The module will be a little bit of a challenge as it has really small parts and I have a rework gun that might be on the large side and melt everything around the target resistor. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Nicholas Stock
May I suggest a small piece of uranium ore placed next to the clock? LOL. Just kidding Jeff! I like Jon's idea, up the voltage/series resistor. On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 1:38 PM Jeff Walton wrote: > Not dimmed. Tried to do a momentary hit on all segments to "wake" up the > tube and it helped

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jeff Walton
ed in rigger tubes. > > > > eric > > > > *Van:* neoni...@googlegroups.com [mailto:neoni...@googlegroups.com] *Namens > *Jon > *Verzonden:* donderdag 30 november 2023 9:25 > *Aan:* neonixie-l > *Onderwerp:* [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a D

[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jeff Walton
Not dimmed. Tried to do a momentary hit on all segments to "wake" up the tube and it helped some but the extra flash is distracting. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 9:04:36 AM UTC-6 Paul Andrews wrote: > Are they also dimmed using an LDR? If so, turn dimming off - if you have > access to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread John
as used in rigger tubes. > > > > eric > > > > *Van:* neoni...@googlegroups.com [mailto:neoni...@googlegroups.com] *Namens > *Jon > *Verzonden:* donderdag 30 november 2023 9:25 > *Aan:* neonixie-l > *Onderwerp:* [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a D

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Tidak Ada
. eric Van: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] Namens Jon Verzonden: donderdag 30 november 2023 9:25 Aan: neonixie-l Onderwerp: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room I think the best approach would be to increase the HV. If you look

[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Paul Andrews
Are they also dimmed using an LDR? If so, turn dimming off - if you have access to the source code, you could turn dimming off briefly when the clock turns on. On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:43:48 PM UTC-5 Jeff Walton wrote: > I've recently come across a situation where I have some tubes

[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jon
I think the best approach would be to increase the HV. If you look at the discussions of glow physics in Weston or Acton for example, the lag in striking a glow from dark (which is what we're talking about here) is reduced by using an anode voltage materially above the threshold striking

[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-29 Thread gregebert
UV light source, such as from an LED ? On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:43:48 PM UTC-8 Jeff Walton wrote: > I've recently come across a situation where I have some tubes in a clock > that are being directly driven and are having trouble starting when the > room is darkened but light right