Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-16 without Neon but with Argon

2020-12-10 Thread Paolo Cravero
Hello. I was wrong on the leak direction, indeed. I did further experiments with the couple of tubes that react to the neon tester (HVAC source applied to one pin, and holding the tube with the other hand). I could pile up power supplies to just below 700V and digits still don't light fully. Given

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-16 without Neon but with Argon

2020-12-09 Thread Christian Riise Wagner
That's pretty cool that it somewhat lights up. However I think that you're mistaken in your assumption that the neon has escaped, leaving only argon in there. The gas mixture in a Nixie tube is at a very low pressure, so my guess is that atmospheric air has leaked into the tube, thus increasing

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-16 without Neon but with Argon

2020-12-09 Thread gregebert
I still think the tube has leaked. 600V is a lot of voltage, and it's going to get pretty warm at 9mA. >From Paschen's curve, the ionization voltage is at a minimum at a certain pressure, around a few mBar. At pressures above AND below that point, the ionization voltage increases. As a tube lea