[neonixie-l] Re: Some interesting measurements of a few R|Z568m

2020-11-11 Thread Kevin A.
By the way, if you find the SMU instrument interesting, I wrote a detailed article about what it is, and how it is used: https://neonkev.com/2020/09/21/precision-swiss-army-knife-the-smu-source-measure-unit/ On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 4:01:23 PM UTC-5 Kevin A. wrote: > On Wednesday, No

[neonixie-l] Re: Some interesting measurements of a few R|Z568m

2020-11-11 Thread Jon
Thanks Kevin, this is really interesting stuff! Jon. On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 9:03:43 PM UTC Kevin A. wrote: > By the way, if you find the SMU instrument interesting, I wrote a detailed > article about what it is, and how it is used: > https://neonkev.com/2020/09/21/precision-swiss-a

[neonixie-l] Re: Some interesting measurements of a few R|Z568m

2020-11-11 Thread gregebert
I had to generate that data by hand measurementstalk about tedious. Your measurements confirmed what I saw as well: the ionization and extinguishing voltages are pretty close to eachother. Generic neon bulbs have much higher hysteresis. I was not able to determine any significant difference

[neonixie-l] Re: Some interesting measurements of a few R|Z568m

2020-11-12 Thread Dalibor
Thank you for making this test, Kevin! Nice to see the tubes passed :-) It is interesting, that the current jumps from zero straight to milliamps scale - theoretically there should be a small current (10E-5 - 10E-6 A) flowing at the voltage close to the striking one (Townsend discharge). The vo

[neonixie-l] Re: Some interesting measurements of a few R|Z568m

2020-11-12 Thread Dalibor
Greg: So far I haven't seen (and customers haven't reported) our tube to drift with the striking voltage so much that it would not strike. I did some random measurements on old tubes and after few seconds of normal use (clock), all digits strikes at normal voltages. But we gave up on trying to

[neonixie-l] Re: Some interesting measurements of a few R|Z568m

2020-11-12 Thread gregebert
I had a difficult time trying to measure the striking voltage because it's not consistent, perhaps because of random photons or background radiation. It's very close to the sustaining voltage. Also, I couldn't measure low current easily. I took data down to 500uA, but below that the tube would

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Some interesting measurements of a few R|Z568m

2020-11-13 Thread dalibor
Thats amazing, it fits to the theoretical curve perfectly! Nice test, thank you! --- original message --- On November 13, 2020, 3:46 AM GMT+1 ka...@scarletmail.rutgers.edu wrote: In light of Dalibor's curiosity about the townsend effect and accelerating electrons pre ignition, I attempted to ma