Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

2023-12-04 Thread Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
All this makes sense to me. Hamas is not Gaza is not Hamas, even Netanyahu is not Israel is not Netanyahu. Targeted wars leave destruction in their wake; I'm reading the full version of Karl Kraus' The Last Days of Mankind, a play around 600 pages long (which he read over 10 long nights) - there is

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

2023-12-04 Thread Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour
Thanks Paul indeed we were in Skopje together thanks for the memory! Ana On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 at 21:09, Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour < netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote: > In a war where generational trauma haunts all parties, it is extremely > difficult to see a way forward for peace. Neve

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

2023-12-04 Thread Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour
Alan I am so happy for your warm words. I was in Damask a few years ago and did an interview with Khaled Meshal the speaker of Hamas who lived as a refugee among other refugees. That was a blatant difference compared to how Abbas live in a palace watched by guards trained by the CIA and with faucet

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

2023-12-04 Thread Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour
In a war where generational trauma haunts all parties, it is extremely difficult to see a way forward for peace. Nevertheless, I would offer this link to a recent text by Mushon Zer-Aviv, which addresses that question. https://medium.com/@mushon/your-empathy-is-killing-us-1a50a4fc0488 I can't rem

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

2023-12-04 Thread Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
Hi Ana, These are remarkable, the photographs might have been taken today. So much of the Chassidic literature I've read seems to be oriented towards peace and exaltation, not this, not what's going on. In Jerusalem, so many religions are present, so much conflict. I remember walking into town and

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

2023-12-04 Thread Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour
Dear all I was too appalled to participate in any discussion about what is happening in Palestine just now. But I was so touched by Alan's powerful lyrics that I wanted to share my little contribution. I come to Ramallah in the West Bank in 2001, invited by the European Community to make a tour thr

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

2023-12-04 Thread Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
Hi Johannes, A number of things. First, several weeks ago I put up a fairly long post which was based totally on the practical, and there was a good discussion that emerged from this. Second of all, having had a year in Israel and two other trips in the past, and in touch with someone who works on

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

2023-12-04 Thread Johannes Birringer via NetBehaviour
>>we have the duty here now of _thinking inconceivability_ to respond with art, music, writings, analyses..>> Alan I agree with what you write, I disagree with what you write too. I realize yes, remembering it well, a few years ago, during the war in Syria and the ISIS attacks, we created a discus

Re: [NetBehaviour] Bye bye Widget Art Gallery

2023-12-04 Thread Helen Varley Jamieson
sorry to hear this, chiara. it's been a great project over such a long time! On 15.11.23 10:00, Chiara Passa via NetBehaviour wrote: Dear friends & colleagues, I hope this message finds you well. I'm getting in touch to let you know that after 15 years, the Widget Art Gallery is now over. It h