Hi Curt,
Sorry for the slow response, much happening lately with projects etc...
>More than any craft (including artmaking, including writing) teaching
>is a bottomless pit. You could devote an entire life to mastering the
>craft and you would still have barely begun to scratch the surface.
>
distributed creativity
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:38:24 +
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January (Helen Sloan)
Hi Simon, Just catching up, Good to read a
biggsuk
From: marc garrett
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:44:25 +
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th
Thanks Marc,
I would say that explains a lot, and I mean that as a compliment. In
addition to Illich and Friere, I would add Ranciere's "The Ignorant
Schoolmaster." We homeschool four children with a fifth on the way,
so teaching, art making, and writing are increasingly intertwined in
my life
Hi Renee,
I'm just playing devil's advocate with those potential critiques of
tactical media. You are absolutely correct to point out that
"tactical media" is anything but monolothic and homogenous -- by
definition, because to be tactical is to be supple. The work we will
discuss in class is t
ing to post something more personal, especially when a lot of heat has
> been generated in a discussion, but I'm glad you have.
> regards
> michael
>
> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, Simon Biggs wrote:
>
>> From: Simon Biggs
>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submiss
[NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions:
> Multichannel VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
> (Helen Sloan) > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity"
> > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 3:35 PM > >
> > Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for S
specially when a lot of heat has been
generated in a discussion, but I'm glad you have.
regards
michael
--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Simon Biggs wrote:
> From: Simon Biggs
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadli
: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January (Helen Sloan)
Hi Curt & all,
As someone who mainly comes from a self-education position, or rather
from a place where I come from a very poor and violent working class
family - which s
Hi Curt & all,
As someone who mainly comes from a self-education position, or rather
from a place where I come from a very poor and violent working class
family - which spent most of the time either being put in social care,
whether this be in borstals and prison, plus family members vanishing
Hi Renee,
I found the post from Curt very interesting, as well as your own post
mentioning your own experience about being part of The Next 5 Minutes in
Amsterdam and Rotterdam. I went to the Next 5 minutes in 96 -
http://www.n5m.org/n5m2/ and even though there were a couple of issues I
had at
Hi Curt,
You're course sounds fascinating. I wish I could enroll!
>
> "It is my fervent wish that this book will become obsolete becaues
> the world will have changed so dramatically that this study of
> art-activism could only appar as a quaint historical artifact, its
> latent pessimism misguid
Hi Rob (and all),
Fun quotes (for the prose alone). Yes. stones, glass houses, logs in
eyes and specks in eyes. The following quote is from the
acknowledgements of Rita Raley's 2009 "Tactical Media" book (which I
will teach this semester in a freshman "liberal studies introductory
colloquium"
IM/Skype: simonbiggsuk
From: Rob Myers
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:34:01 +
To:
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January (Helen Sloan)
On 09/01/10 11
On 09/01/10 11:43, tom corby wrote:
> This is a good old fashioned bit of shit-stirring.
I can't really imagine Michael "shit-stirring"...
> As pointed out by Simon, I found the art and language quotes deeply
> ironic given that their practice was largely nourished (and financed)
> within the U
est of society ( and I'm very grateful
>> to Rob for the Art and Language quotes which I previously knew nothing about
>> and which both made me laugh and struck me as enormously pertinent). And I'm
>> *not* trying to make some easy or pat argument - I'm saying there are
&
& shouldn't stop us arguing the detail, though, as we head for the
barricades...
michael
--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Helen Sloan wrote:
> From: Helen Sloan
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th Janua
From: Helen Sloan
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:02:35 +
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January (Helen
t; and which both made me laugh and struck me as enormously pertinent). And I'm
> *not* trying to make some easy or pat argument - I'm saying there are
> *unanswered and legitimate questions* and there is *room
> for discussion*...
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 1/9/10, ma
circle/
>
> si...@littlepig.org.uk
> www.littlepig.org.uk
> AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk
>
>
>
> From: Michael Szpakowski
> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 02:46:06 -0800 (PST)
> To: NetBehaviour for network
enormously pertinent). And I'm
> *not* trying to make some easy or pat argument - I'm saying there are
> *unanswered and legitimate questions* and there is *room
> for discussion*...
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 1/9/10, mark cooley wrote:
>
>> From: mark c
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 02:46:06 -0800 (PST)
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January (Helen Sloan
27;m saying there are *unanswered and legitimate questions* and there is
> *room
> for discussion*...
>
>
>
As pointed out by Simon, I found the art and language quotes deeply
ironic given that their practice was largely nourished (and financed)
within the University of Leeds
mate questions* and there is *room
for discussion*...
--- On Sat, 1/9/10, mark cooley wrote:
> From: mark cooley
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January (Helen Sloan)
> To: netbehavi
Helen,
Thank you for the generous restatement of a perfectly understandable original.
Frankly, I wouldn't have had the patience. It always amazes me just how bold
idiocy can be. One would think that an unfamiliar language might spark one's
curiosity to well... want to learn something rather tha
ociology to law, medicine to
>>>>> engineering, linguistics to cultural theory and other mixes. Among
other
>>>>> benefits there are two things that are especially exciting about this.
The
>>>>> first is that it facilitates capabilities and opportunities that wo
ineering, linguistics to cultural theory and other mixes. Among other
>>>>> benefits there are two things that are especially exciting about this. The
>>>>> first is that it facilitates capabilities and opportunities that would
>>>>> othe
Pro-peace and anti-war online media memorabilia.
This site catalogs the various anti-war initiatives that have gone
offline since the rise of the Web in the 1990s. There are thousands of
projects that were started in opposition to wars in Iraq, Yugoslavia,
Afghanistan, and elsewhere. But these
ual work that differences, if they don't actually dissolve , at
least take on a less threatening aspect...
cheers
michael
--- On Fri, 1/8/10, Corrado Morgana wrote:
> From: Corrado Morgana
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Sc
boun...@netbehaviour.org] On Behalf Of tom corby
Sent: 08 January 2010 8:52 AM
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
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So you can't be both? Sorry this is
us what understood it!
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010, martin mitchell wrote:
> Who is the we you refer to ...!
> On 8 Jan 2010, at 00:31, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Good grief this is an incredibly weird topic, it was just a call for
>> submissions, we understood it! Now it's probably the most c
*L*laborative
>>>>>*E*nvironments
>>>>>CIRCLE research group
>>>>>www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ <http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/>
>>>>> <http://ac.uk/circle/>
>>>>>
>>>>> si...@littlepig.org.u
Who is the we you refer to ...!
On 8 Jan 2010, at 00:31, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
>
> Good grief this is an incredibly weird topic, it was just a call for
> submissions, we understood it! Now it's probably the most commented
> on topic on Netbehaviour! Sure is behaviour! Count me in!?
>
>
>
.eca.ac.uk
>>>
>>> Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
>>> CIRCLE research group
>>> www.eca.ac.uk/circle/
>>>
>>> si...@littlepig.org.uk
>>> www.littlepig.org.uk <http://www.littlepig.org.uk>
>&
w.eca.ac.uk <http://ac.uk/>
>>>>
>>>> *C*reative *I*nterdisciplinary *R*esearch into
>>>> *C*o*L*laborative *E*nvironments
>>>> CIRCLE research group
>>>> www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ <http://ac.uk/circle/>
>>>>
>>
tlepig.org.uk
>>> >
>>> www.littlepig.org.uk <http://www.littlepig.org.uk>
>>> <http://www.littlepig.org.uk <http://www.littlepig.org.uk/>>
>>> AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk
>>>
>>>
>>>
Hi Alan & all,
>From the amazing discussion about via Second Life, to this now.
It proves how varied this list really is...
Stuart.
>
>Good grief this is an incredibly weird topic, it was just a call for
>submissions, we understood it! Now it's probably the most commented
>on topic on Netbeh
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To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
<netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org>
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
Artists who teach in art colleges unfortunately seem to become
Good grief this is an incredibly weird topic, it was just a call for
submissions, we understood it! Now it's probably the most commented
on topic on Netbehaviour! Sure is behaviour! Count me in!?
==
email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/
webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat
t;>
>>> Research Professor
>>> edinburgh college of art
>>> s.bi...@eca.ac.uk
>>> www.eca.ac.uk
>>>
>>> Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
>>> CIRCLE research group
>>> www.eca.ac.uk/c
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> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
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>
>
>
> Artists who teach in art colleges unfortunately seem to beco
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> *Date: *Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:55:00 +
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> netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
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> Is this an academic statement:-You need to get out mor
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:39:14 +
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> >
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
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> WHOW..No the complete opposite I&#
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From: martin mitchell
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:03:50 +
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme
iggsuk
>
>
> From: martin mitchell
> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:55:00 +
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEc
networked distributed creativity
>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
>
> WHOW..No the complete opposite I'm an artist and not an academic.
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2
networked distributed creativity
> >
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:34:02 +
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> >
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
>
t;
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:34:02 +0000
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
>
> It's not the moving image event itself
networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
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WHOW..No the complete opposite I'm an artist and not an
academic.
On 7 Jan 2010, at 23:28, Simon Biggs wrote:
> You do
: martin mitchell
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:41:21 +
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
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ERRR
our for networked distributed creativity
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:09:32 +
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
>
> n
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
It's not the moving image event itself but the nonsensical language used to
describe ideas you are looking for inside of those projected images onto a
screen.
How does one translate into another language part of dogmatic statements
like &#x
buted creativity
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:42:10 +
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
> VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
>
> Have no idea what this
www.littlepig.org.uk
AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk
From: martin mitchell
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:09:32 +
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies
My glasses are beginning to be covered with layer of ice as the gas fire dims
and electricity supply blinks lights on and off, conversation on this site has
slowly been snowed under ... blink..
On 7 Jan 2010, at 23:25, Rob Myers wrote:
> On 07/01/10 23:15, martin mitchell wrote:
From: martin mitchell
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:42:10 +
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:11:48 + (GMT)
To:
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel
VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4&feature=PlayLi
On 07/01/10 23:15, martin mitchell wrote:
> Yes an interesting observation which I agree with but the initial
> statement did not give a readable description to such ideas that one might
> understand when reading original email
We'll just have to differ about agreeing on that. ;-)
Yes an interesting observation which I agree with but the initial
statement did not give a readable description to such ideas that one might
understand when reading original email as an artist sitting in a
studio on a cold thursday evening in east London
On 7 Jan 2010, at 22:2
Erm ... I'm only asking for sensible descriptive use of english language
instead of bureaucratic gobbledegook, it has nothing to do with macho
censorship.
As for the demolition jibe . such language, opinion and violence should
be condemned by all person writing on this site, perhaps the
On 07/01/10 18:34, martin mitchell wrote:
> How does one translate into another language part of dogmatic statements like
> 'running past', 'flag up' or 'socio economic' !
>
I don't think that the expressions you identify are dogmatic. It could
be argued that they have their origin in
Hi Martin.
"Please no more of this 'international socio-economic events" language
..!"
I think Helen, Simon and anyone else on here should be allowed to express
themselves how they want, such macho censorship only works, to suppress and
kill our voices in this world...
I'd be happy for y
English language.
On 7 Jan 2010, at 19:07, brian gibson wrote:
> how does one expect another to only use vocabulary that martin is comfortable
> with?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:34 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
> It's not the moving image event itself but the nonsensical
Sorry. I fail to see how any of the highlighted terms are dogmatic.
martin mitchell wrote:
> It's not the moving image event itself but the nonsensical language
> used to describe ideas you are looking for inside of those projected
> images onto a screen.
> How does one translate into another la
how does one expect another to only use vocabulary that martin is
comfortable with?
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:34 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
> It's not the moving image event itself but the nonsensical language used to
> describe ideas you are looking for inside of those projected images onto
It's not the moving image event itself but the nonsensical language used to
describe ideas you are looking for inside of those projected images onto a
screen.
How does one translate into another language part of dogmatic statements like
'running past', 'flag up' or 'socio economic' !
C.
NNN I chew my nails made of iron ..
C.N.C.S
On 7 Jan 2010, at 18:17, Renee Turner wrote:
> Manik where are you? I feel the need for one of your important statements!
> Crispy Nails in need of manicure ;-)
>
> x Renee
> On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:01 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
>
>> Interesti
I have to agree with Simon, it all seems pretty straight-forward to me.
Thanks for posting Helen.
tom
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:42 PM, martin mitchell
> mailto:martinmitc...@mac.com>> wrote:
>
> Have no idea what this means ..
>
> "They want some video art that engages
Martin and List
Noone is censored in terms of submitting to this programme. It is open to
all.
I was merely suggesting that if the approach of the programme feels
uncomfortable, it may not be the right one to be involved in.
If anyone wishes to contact me about submitting work or any aspect of
Manik where are you? I feel the need for one of your important
statements! Crispy Nails in need of manicure ;-)
x Renee
On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:01 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
Interesting animation on you tube 'puffing away'.
Ok.. idea is perhaps to do with self destruction of planet
nihilist:- a person who believes human existence has no objective meaning,
purpose, or intrinsic value.
Nihilism (from the Latin nihil, nothing) is the philosophical doctrine
suggesting the negation of one or more aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism
is presented in the form of existential
Interesting animation on you tube 'puffing away'.
Ok.. idea is perhaps to do with self destruction of planet earth by
human beings that assume to be in control of their own destiny, a problem for
self aware human beings to try and resolve through creative and artistic
actions such as be
common sense never told me to be a nihilist..
common sense told me to make video.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:42 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
> Have no idea what this means ..
>
> "They want some video art that engages current international
> socio-economic events to put in an exhib
Have no idea what this means ..
"They want some video art that engages current international socio-economic
events to put in an exhibition".
Common sense tells us it's meaningless.
Just cannot write anymore... this is embarrassing nonsense.
martin mitchell.
On 7 Jan 2010,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4&feature=PlayList&p=5840AC014CA20F89&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=56
:)
On 7/1/2010, "Simon Biggs" wrote:
>Seems clear to me. They want some video art that engages current
>international socio-economic events to put in an exhibition.
>
>Simon Big
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