...WHAT'S SO ORIGINAL IN ONE MAN'S AMBITION TO BE IN POLITICS...?...CICCIOLINA 
FAMOUS PORNO STARLET/  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Staller /WAS IN 
ITALIAN PARLIAMENT...SHE FUCK J.KOONS...SHE IS SKY HIGH AND MARX&ENGELS&MARX 
BROTHER FOR THAT BEPPE OF YOURS...WHAT WAS YOUR MESSAGE 
ACTUALLY...?...MANIK...MARCH...2011...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graziano Milano 
  To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 2:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Michael Moore amazing speech


  The first fascist regime was Italy in 1922, and the first to fall in 1943.

  The first Media Billionaire as Prime Minister, again in Italy in 1994, and I 
bet it will be the first to fall by a people's movement. 

  We, Italians, like to experiment, so we have our own Michael Moore who has 
already gone a step or two further, he launched a political movement, the 
Five-Star Movement. His name is Beppe Grillo and he is a comedian with the 
sixth most­visited blog in the world, with 6.5million unique users per month: 
  
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/comedy/8362260/Beppe-Grillo-interview.html#
  http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/

  As a candidate to next Milan mayor election the local meetup of the Five-Star 
Movement has chosen in an 'online primary' a 20 years old University student, 
Mattia Calise. He won't win but he will get in as a Councilor probably with one 
or two others from the Movement, and he will have thousands advising and 
supporting him all the way.  

  To get all our countries back we need to get in there with our people and our 
agenda, no more Democratic or Republican, Labour or Tory, Left or Right, as 
Grillo says "we are above".





  On 7 March 2011 22:29, Fung-Lin Hall <h...@mutanteggplant.com> wrote:

    I agree with you Alan.
    It really bothered me when Jean Luc Godard attacked Michael Moore saying
    that his film helped Bush win victory when M. Moore
    won the Palm d'or.


    > Thanks, that stuff is disillusioning. Moore's definitely the real thing;
    > as I said, I just hope his audience is as well. -
    >
    >
    > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, dave miller wrote:
    >
    >> hi Alan
    >> I always felt that Bono was a figleaf for Blair's dodgy dealings. Bono
    >> has been also criticised for tax avoidance, keeping his money off
    >> shore, and recently he started a hedge fund. It's disappointing I
    >> know, I always want rock stars to have integrity.
    >>
    >> dave
    >>
    >> On 7 March 2011 20:53, Alan Sondheim<sondh...@panix.com>  wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Hi, just curious, why is Bono a fraud? I didn't read him like that.
    >>>
    >>> Moore is great but what really needs to happen - people have to act, 
have
    >>> to strike, and whether that will happen, I don't know. I think the
    >>> governor's waiting for the ranks to break from hunger, exhaustion, just
    >>> plain attrition. If that happens, everything's lost,
    >>>
    >>> - Alan
    >>>
    >>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, dave miller wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I agree Alan, it gives me hope.
    >>>>
    >>>> I dont know why we are so apathetic in the UK - generally speaking -
    >>>> of all this. What Moore says applies here -equally so, especially in
    >>>> the City. If we dont stand up for ourselves soon it will be too late,
    >>>> game over for us little people. Even Mervyn King, the governor of the
    >>>> Bank of England, said he's amazed there hasn't been major unrest.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm really glad someone with a high profile, a celebrity figure, is
    >>>> speaking out loudly. People will listen to him. I hope we see a lot
    >>>> more of this. But I've been trying to think of a similar figure in the
    >>>> UK who could do what Moore is doing in the video, and I cant really
    >>>> imagine anyone who has big-time celebrity "fame" status, and who would
    >>>> be likely to speak up spontaneously.
    >>>>
    >>>> Do we have any famous people who people really respect who is likely 
to do this?
    >>>>
    >>>> We've had Bono and geldof but they were always a bunch of frauds in my
    >>>> mind at least. People love Richard Branson, but he's part of the
    >>>> problem (even though he pretends he's not).
    >>>>
    >>>> Who do we have? Alan Sugar? Bruce Forsyth?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> dave
    >>>>
    >>>> On 7 March 2011 17:48, Alan Sondheim<sondh...@panix.com>  wrote:
    >>>>> Thank you so much for sending this - it's amazing. I'm surprised the 
fury
    >>>>> hasn't gone farther - that there's not a general strike in this 
country.
    >>>>> Everyone should watch this - Alan
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, dave miller wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgNuSEZ8CDw&feature=player_embedded
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Is there someone in the UK who can do this here?
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