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> From: Michael Szpakowski
> To: bob catchpole ; NetBehaviour for networked
> distributed creativity
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening
> Standard yesterday
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> There&
onscious even to the
> creators.
>
> Bob
>
>
> From: Michael Szpakowski
> To: Michael Szpakowski ; NetBehaviour for networked
> distributed creativity
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 14:28
>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about
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> From: Michael Szpakowski
>To: Michael Szpakowski ; NetBehaviour for networked
>distributed creativity
>Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 14:28
>Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening
>Standard yesterday
>
>
>I think I should cl
did someone mention withnail & i?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zjhlZhAov0
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40 years of irony.
On Mar 15, 2012 8:18 PM, "Fung-Lin Hall" wrote:
> Gilbert && George - I saw them perform at Soho Gallery long ago in the
> late 80's.
> I linked their ten commandments here.. UK funny guys 2006 blog archive.
> http://www.mutanteggplant.com/vitro-nasu/2006/11/30/uk-funny-guys/
>
Gilbert && George - I saw them perform at Soho Gallery long ago in the
late 80's.
I linked their ten commandments here.. UK funny guys 2006 blog archive.
http://www.mutanteggplant.com/vitro-nasu/2006/11/30/uk-funny-guys/
UK mountain bikers visiting Arizona, Whitnail and I , Gilbert & George,
Dav
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Rob Myers wrote:
> Also, I'm sure they're being ironic. I'm just not sure when.
>
> - Rob.
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- which I think is part of their brilliance.
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On 15/03/12 12:47, John Wild wrote:
> Curiously G&G have attended the London Anarchist Book fair a number of
> times and have left small - £20 - tokens of their appreciation for Class
> War.
>
> Maybe it’s a payment for all the stickers and graff they have cooped
> into their work. Or maybe they j
Maybe they're being ironic?
dave
On 15 March 2012 12:47, John Wild wrote:
> Curiously G&G have attended the London Anarchist Book fair a number of times
> and have left small - £20 - tokens of their appreciation for Class War.
>
>
>
> Maybe it’s a payment for all the stickers and graff they have
Curiously G&G have attended the London Anarchist Book fair a number of
times and have left small - £20 - tokens of their appreciation for Class
War.
Maybe it’s a payment for all the stickers and graff they have cooped into
their work. Or maybe they just like young anarco skinheads.
Curious Th
At least I thought G&G part of the corporate artworld back then - Castelli
and Sonnabend were the NY powerhouses.
- Alan
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> people who laugh,with same expression on face,Yoyoi, Koons...and many
> other...world today is full of good artists and good art...but not more than
> that...but that *more* was from Gioto,or Rublev something we looking for in
> art...MANIK...MARCH...2012...
> - Original Message
ther...world today is full of good artists and good art...but not more than
that...but that *more* was from Gioto,or Rublev something we looking for in
art...MANIK...MARCH...2012...
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From: "Rob Myers"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:02 PM
Subject: Re:
On 14/03/12 16:26, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> otoh, Hirst & Co. seem, at least from the US,
> to have lost whatever panache they had.
The American artworld gossip blogs I read always compare Hirst
unfavourably to Koons. I think this is necessary in order to ignore the
debt they both owe to German
On 14/03/12 12:03, dave miller wrote:
> Here's an article arguing that G&G are not fascists:
> http://www.newmediastudies.com/art/gilbert.htm
>
> and an interview "We are searching for the truth"
> http://www.jca-online.com/gilbertandgeorge.html
I really, really, really do believe that they are a
ked distributed creativity
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the
Evening Standard yesterday
There's a very interesting - nearly hidden nowadays - history of
discussion, debate and more on this.
Stalin, Mao, Pol Po
duct and the
> artistic success or failure of her work...
>
> --
> *From:* Michael Szpakowski
> *To:* bob catchpole ; NetBehaviour for
> networked distributed creativity
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:06 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [N
11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening
Standard yesterday
There's a very interesting - nearly hidden nowadays - history of discussion,
debate and more on this.
Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot & more all demanded a politico/ethical dimension to art
(
gt;
> Any of Trotsky's writings on art repay reading as does the tremendous "Art
> as the Coginiton of Life" by Voronsky...
>
> cheers
> michael
>
>
>
>
> From: bob catchpole
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distrib
emendous "Art as
the Coginiton of Life" by Voronsky...
cheers
michael
From: bob catchpole
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & Geor
lex, subtle and careful work embodied truths about the
>world *despite* his politics.
>cheers
>michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: bob catchpole
>To: Michael Szpakowski ; NetBehaviour for networked
>distributed creativity
>Sent: Sunday, M
cheers
michael
From: bob catchpole
To: Michael Szpakowski ; NetBehaviour for networked
distributed creativity
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening
Standard yesterday
Michael,
Are you suggesting that there'
, 13:57
>Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening
>Standard yesterday
>
>
>There's no equation, unfortunately, between good (by which I mean left)
>politics and good art.
>There are some artists with rotten politics who repay repeate
liberating, but that's another and longer
discussion...
cheers
michael
From: dave miller
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the
Hi Rob
This makes sense to me - Gilbert and George have become the Terry
Thomases of the art world.
dabe
On 6 March 2012 19:31, Rob Myers wrote:
> On 06/03/12 17:03, marc garrett wrote:
>>
>> I think it's obvious that G&G are elitists, and would not wish to lose
>> any income from their bourgeo
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From: "Rob Myers"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening
Standard yesterday
On 06/03/12 22:41, manik wrote:
>
> so...Gilbert & George are Buddhas of '
On 06/03/12 22:41, manik wrote:
>
> so...Gilbert & George are Buddhas of ''Corporation Art'' same as
I love this description.
> Damien,Hockney,...name them...of course there's people who still believe in
> art but it's better for them to change name of their work...instead 'art'
> they could n
r for them to change name of their work...instead 'art'
they could name that as 'techne'...it's not important to make REVOLUTION on
the first place...for beginning it's good to make revolution in language of
revolution/you could replace word 'revolution' wit
On 06/03/12 17:03, marc garrett wrote:
>
> I think it's obvious that G&G are elitists, and would not wish to lose
> any income from their bourgeois client base.
Their original artistic gesture was to conflate aesthetic and social
form. This was interesting but over time it has led to their public
Hi Dave,
Why anyone would listen to or even give their opinions any weight is
beyond me.
I think it's obvious that G&G are elitists, and would not wish to lose
any income from their bourgeois client base.
They are on the side of the exploiters - it's good business sense as far
as they are con
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/arts/visual-arts/wed-rather-side-with-the-bankers-than-some-vegan-protester-twit-on-benefits-say-gilbert-and-george-7537242.html
"By the mid-Seventies they were already a fully fledged double-act.
Sexually libertarian, revolutionary even, they have always been
politica
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