RE: Request to reconsider removal of groff from base system

2015-04-07 Thread Ron Swiernik
So let me get this right, you replaced a GENERIC text formatting tool with one that ONLY knows how to manual pages. Now you want to move groff out of the base into pkgsrc leaving a tool that ONLY knows how to format manual page macros whose output is border line stupid. And you are calling this

Aw: Re: Re: Request to reconsider removal of groff from base system

2015-04-07 Thread carsten . kunze
Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com wrote: mandoc(1) does not process roff. Very simplified described it acts somehow like nroff -mandoc ... or troff -mandoc There it understands a large subset of the nroff/troff language. (Only a few useres need real nroff/troff for typesetting other

Re: Request to reconsider removal of groff from base system

2015-04-07 Thread Martin Husemann
On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 10:05:51PM +, Ron Swiernik wrote: Even Microsoft gives you Wordpad with the OS And NetBSD base has vi and fmt... Martin

Aw: RE: Re: Re: Request to reconsider removal of groff from base system

2015-04-07 Thread carsten . kunze
Again this is an enhancement? Can mandoc handle tbl and pic input? It can handle tbl input. I'm not shure about pic but there may not be many manpages using pic. UNIX has had the *roff tool suite for a long time. A text formatter is how they got support from management to continue work on

Re: RE: Re: Re: Request to reconsider removal of groff from base system

2015-04-07 Thread Rhialto
On Tue 07 Apr 2015 at 13:57:45 +0200, carsten.ku...@arcor.de wrote: Again this is an enhancement? Can mandoc handle tbl and pic input? It can handle tbl input. I'm not shure about pic but there may not be many manpages using pic. Various X manual pages are mishandled in NetBSD 6. I looked

dhcpcd / IPv6 question

2015-04-07 Thread Paul Goyette
I'm finally getting my NetBSD environment reestablished, and am running into a little problem. I started dhcpcd from /etc/rc.d without any special options, and this is what I get in /var/run/rc.log ... [running /etc/rc.d/dhcpcd] Starting dhcpcd. DUID 00:01:00:01:1c:b2:4c:b2:78:24:af:3d:64:10

Re: dhcpcd / IPv6 question

2015-04-07 Thread Paul Goyette
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015, Gary Duzan wrote: =I have no idea where the 2001:... and 2002:...entries came from... Those are standard routes; I have those, too. OK, then I won't worry about them! =Any clue on how to get a valid IPv6 default route? I don't think you have a real IPv6 address

Re: dhcpcd / IPv6 question

2015-04-07 Thread Gary Duzan
In Message pine.neb.4.64.1504080912040.22...@vps1.whooppee.com, Paul Goyette p...@vps1.whooppee.comwrote: =OK, then off to plan B - let's see if I can get a tunnel broker to work =with my dynamic IP address. (Fixed/Static IP not available here in the =Philippines for residential service, as

Re: dhcpcd / IPv6 question

2015-04-07 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20150408010854.536a9115...@xen1.duzan.org, Gary Duzan g...@duzan.org wrote: In Message pine.neb.4.64.1504080833110.24...@vps1.whooppee.com, Paul Goyette p...@vps1.whooppee.comwrote: =I'm finally getting my NetBSD environment reestablished, and am running =into a little problem. I

Re: can't update OpenSSL

2015-04-07 Thread scar
Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote on 04/07/2015 05:24 AM: perhaps you downloaded a tarball that was created from sources checked out that way. yes, that must be what happened... i think i downloaded tarballs to fix the last OpenSSL vulnerability, in Advisory 2014-015

Re: dhcpcd / IPv6 question

2015-04-07 Thread Gary Duzan
In Message pine.neb.4.64.1504080833110.24...@vps1.whooppee.com, Paul Goyette p...@vps1.whooppee.comwrote: =I'm finally getting my NetBSD environment reestablished, and am running =into a little problem. I started dhcpcd from /etc/rc.d without any =special options, and this is what I get in