Re: xfce4 startup issue

2019-02-09 Thread Robert Nestor
Interesting that others have seen the mouse and window move problem under xfce. My system is an amd64 with Intel driver and I’m using X from the base distribution. I have been building the packages myself and using them for the installation and I always do a clean system install of 8.0_STABLE

Re: Install kernel and userland without source?

2019-02-09 Thread Greg Troxel
"J. Lewis Muir" writes: > I have an amd64 router running the netbsd-8 stable branch that does not > have sources and does not have pkgsrc, and I'd like to build the kernel > and userland from source on another machine and then install them on the > router; how do I do that? If you mean "update"

Re: xfce4 startup issue

2019-02-09 Thread David H. Gutteridge
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019, at 16:38:18 -0600, Robert Nestor wrote: > I’m still trying to isolate the problem I’m seeing. Did notice that > hal is no longer dragged in when I install xfce4 from current or > 2018Q4, so I’ve eliminated it in my install. Avahi was being pulled > in when I installed seamonke

Re: xfce4 startup issue

2019-02-09 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
The last few days on -current pkgsrc I upgraded gnome, xfce4 and mate on -current (amd64, atm from an hour ago). They all seem to work fine; I did install avahi, hal and dbus as per the gnome's MESSAGE, but found that xfce4 works without the former two; I always start xfce4 with 'startxfce4', for s

Re: xfce4 startup issue

2019-02-09 Thread Robert Nestor
I’m still trying to isolate the problem I’m seeing. Did notice that hal is no longer dragged in when I install xfce4 from current or 2018Q4, so I’ve eliminated it in my install. Avahi was being pulled in when I installed seamonkey, so I’ve disabled it for the time being. Where I am now is tes

Re: xfce4 startup issue

2019-02-09 Thread David H. Gutteridge
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019, at 15:13:35 -0600, Robert Nestor wrote: > As suggested by David Gutteridge, I commented out the startup of the > dbus, hal and avahi daemons in rc.conf. When I did this, xfce4 came > up and appeared to be working. So that begs the question, why the > install of xfce4 also inst

Re: Install kernel and userland without source?

2019-02-09 Thread reed
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-help/2008/03/04/msg89.html > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-help/2008/03/04/msg90.html > > but that's for upgrading from NetBSD 3.1 to 4, so I'm not confident that > it applies to NetBSD 8. That sho

Install kernel and userland without source?

2019-02-09 Thread J. Lewis Muir
I have an amd64 router running the netbsd-8 stable branch that does not have sources and does not have pkgsrc, and I'd like to build the kernel and userland from source on another machine and then install them on the router; how do I do that? I'm aware of the "Updating an existing system from sour