Re: Release

2021-12-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 19 Dec 2021, Greg Troxel wrote: I didn't mean to demand human acknowledgement, merely "not rejected by the MTA, and actually delivred to the original poster". I am not as close a reader as I pride myself on being, since I lept to the impression you have just now dispersed. Good thing

Re: Release

2021-12-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 19 Dec 2021, Greg Troxel wrote: There's nothing wrong with a direct reply to a list message, and it's discourteous to refuse them. Would it be correct to claim equivalence -- more or less -- between your category "direct reply," and what I have been accustomed to call an "off-list re

Re: Building LibreOffice

2021-11-27 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021, Todd Gruhn wrote: After I compile and install many libs needed by LibreOffice, I get the message: Harfbuzz needs to be built with Graphite support What do I do about this? Have you tried the build of libreoffce yet? According to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harf

Re: FireFox versions for NETBSD-HEAD

2021-11-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021, Greg Troxel wrote: cd /usr/pkgsrc/lang/rust make show-options Yes. Havard's post, between its lines, told me that there is no repository of make options toward which curious persons might be easily directed. The devil is still in the detail, where he's always been.

Re: FireFox versions for NETBSD-HEAD

2021-11-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021, Havard Eidnes wrote: Documentation? :) A very helpful post; seriously. Beaucoup thank-you's. And a sense of humor is also indispensable! -- "The existence of God is not an experimental issue in the way it was." John Wisdom - "Gods" (1944)

Re: FireFox versions for NETBSD-HEAD

2021-11-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021, Greg Troxel wrote: Chavdar Ivanov writes: PKG_OPTIONS.rust+= rust-llvm RUST_TYPE=src 1.56.1 has just hit pkgsrc proper. Regarding the kinds of options noted above, where would a curious person go to read documentation for them? I have lines like the above in my /etc

Re: FireFox versions for NETBSD-HEAD

2021-11-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021, Todd Gruhn wrote: 'uname -s' gives 'NetBSD' (is that even correct?) Language can be so tricky. In the sense of being a "legal" argument to 'uname,' 's' is correct (it's listed in uname's manpage synopsis), but I meant to type 'uname -a' so that the version number would

Re: FireFox versions for NETBSD-HEAD

2021-11-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
TYPO WARNING! On Fri, 19 Nov 2021, Bob Bernstein wrote: Share with us the output of 'uname -s'. My eyes continue to go downhill. This of course should have been 'uname -a'. 9-( -- "The existence of God is not an experimental issue in the way it was."

Re: FireFox versions for NETBSD-HEAD

2021-11-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021, Todd Gruhn wrote: I just upgraded to NETBSD-HEAD-19-November-2021 . Does anyone have FireFox working on this version? Your nomenclature is just a wee bit less than adequate, imho. I think you mean that you upgraded to what is usually (albeit informally) referred to as "c

Re: Extract tar balls

2021-10-30 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 30 Oct 2021, Edgar Pettijohn wrote: A quick look at the manual for cvs looks like it probably should have just been: cvs tag successful-build-$DATE where $DATE is todays date. Here's what I see with that: $ cd /usr/src/ $ cvs tag successful-build-20211030 cvs tag: Tagging . cvs [ta

Re: Extract tar balls

2021-10-30 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021, John Nemeth wrote: If you don't use the default shell, then it is up to you to know how your shell functions. You may be right. Perhaps you can help me with this statement found in https://www.netbsd.org/docs/current/#tagging --snip-- Tagging a successful build If

Extract tar balls

2021-10-29 Thread Bob Bernstein
I'm trying to follow _The NetBSD Guide_, but I am stymied by these instructions, at https://netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-fetch.html $ for file in *.tgz do tar -xzf $file -C / done Entering that first line and pressing just yields "for: Command not found." Are those steps, as printed, dep

Hooray for NetBSD-9.99.92-amd64-bios-install.img.gz

2021-10-27 Thread Bob Bernstein
A couple of days ago I had my first experience with sysupgrade. Worked like a charm, all the way through etcupdate and postinstall. Braced by this experience of getting something right, I decided to look into sysbuild, and in the process came across an amazing statement in: http://nycdn.net

Re: USB stick error message

2021-10-15 Thread Bob Bernstein
Thank you Michael, but I cannot justify taking up anymore of your valuable time on this problem. I only purchased my first USB stick a scant few years ago, and only then because my wife wanted to use one on her Mac. I've never felt a need to have one around, although I'm sure they're all kinds

Re: USB stick error message

2021-10-14 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, Michael van Elst wrote: Are you sure you started the 'a' partition at 63 like in the example ? I think the question is did I perform ALL the steps listed in that section of the wiki page? Just now, executing the last one, I ran into an error I did not see before: --s

Re: USB stick error message

2021-10-14 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, Michael van Elst wrote: Are you sure you started the 'a' partition at 63 like in the example ? I "think" I did, but I wouldn't bet my life on it! All I can do is repeat the experiment, perhaps with a little bit (or a lot!) more attention to the details. Thank you. -

Re: USB stick error message

2021-10-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021, Michael van Elst wrote: fn: diskn 1: NetBSD Error 3 The message comes from the MBR bootcode and says that the PBR bootblock has an invalid signature which usually means it hasn't been written. Is that a defect that is susceptible of a remedy that would not be destruct

USB stick error message

2021-10-12 Thread Bob Bernstein
I put the USB stick that has been booting my NUC -- equipped with current 9.99.88 -- into my old eMachine, hit F12 when the eMachine logo appeared, and was presented a boot-device selector screen that correctly identified the stick. Choosing it I was soon at a halt with these three lines displa

Re: OT - I have a NUC

2021-10-11 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On my NUC, there is a connector between the SATA connector and the SATA power connector. May one ask, do you run NetBSD on your NUC? Overnight I learned that the CMOS battery in my NUC has expired, and that was pretty much the end of the road for me

Re: OT - I have a NUC

2021-10-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, Thomas D. Dean wrote: Is the SATA cable connection inserted firm on both ends? Not sure. Does the SATA cable have 1 or 2 connectors on the computer end? Two. And I gave them each a push before buttoning the thing up with new SSD inside. I didn't look closely at the

Re: OT - I have a NUC

2021-10-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, Rhialto wrote: ahcisata0 port 0: PHY offline This seems to be the point where things start failing. Am I being told that the two tiny little connectors from the SSD's "carrier" (for lack of the correct term) that plug into what I suppose might be called the thing's ma

Re: OT - I have a NUC

2021-10-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, Martin Husemann wrote: So it should have shown up as wd0 on your sata controller (but no drives appeared in your dmesg). Strange. What I am finding strange is how slow this new system is, for example, responding to keypresses, and carrying out simple tasks such as 'mkdir

Re: OT - I have a NUC

2021-10-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, Martin Husemann wrote: Nothing obivous here. The SSD you replaced had a SATA connector? It matched in overall appearance things termed "SATA" in some of the youtube videos I watched. Measures 4" x 2.75". It is labeled "Solid State Drive." I am brand new to these sorts

Re: OT - I have a NUC

2021-10-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, Martin Husemann wrote: It would be very helpful to see the full dmesg of the machine. Done. -- "The existence of God is not an experimental issue in the way it was." John Wisdom - "Gods" (1944) Copyright (c) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 200

Re: OT - I have a NUC

2021-10-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
I now have a NUC that boots from a USB stick into into -current 9.99.88! Massive props to everyone in attendance, and to David, who, in this message: https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2021/09/28/msg027812.html ...suggested I use my bootable NetBSD CD to install a full system on the

OT - I have a NUC

2021-10-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
Said NUC is able via a CD I burned (using NetBSD-9.99.88-amd64.iso) to boot that image, and begin execution of the 'sysinst' resident on it. 'sysinst' immediately interrupts with a message; "I can not find any hard disks for use by NetBSD." A bit of history iydm: Last month I discussed th

Re: man page inquiry

2021-10-08 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: A sed command to replace #configdir# with ${PKG_SYSCONFDIR} should suffice. Yes. However, /wm/wdm seems to be without a maintainer at present, so I think there are no further steps I can take beyond the "head's-up" I put up on pkgsrc-users earlier to

Re: man page inquiry

2021-10-08 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, Valery Ushakov wrote: Do you care to take a stab at what that value might be were it to be correctly displayed? I don't have the slightest idea. /usr/pkg/etc/wdm probably. Yes, as was kindly pointed out to me by Martin in this post from only a few days ago: http://ma

Re: man page inquiry

2021-10-07 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021, Valery Ushakov wrote: Looks like a pkgsrc bug that failed to properly substitute the actual value before installing the man page. Do you care to take a stab at what that value might be were it to be correctly displayed? I'm far from certain that it even makes sense to as

man page inquiry

2021-10-06 Thread Bob Bernstein
If I read 'man wdm' I see this: --snip-- -config configuration_file Names the configuration file, which specifies resources to control the behavior of wdm. #configdir#/wdm-config is the default. --snip-- Should I be seeing #configdir# thus literally, or is there -- apparently missing

Re: wdm rc script

2021-10-05 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021, Martin Husemann wrote: You should find it at /usr/pkg/share/examples/rc.d/wdm And, of course there it is. If only I had looked in the location you suggested, rather than one I seem to have conjured out of pure cranial vapor lock, I would have found it. Imagine my embaras

Re: wdm rc script

2021-10-05 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021, Martin Husemann wrote: You should find it at /usr/pkg/share/examples/rc.d/wdm Here's what I see: $ ls /usr/pkg/share/examples/wdm/ GiveConsole Xservers Xsetup_0 TakeConsole Xservers.fs wdm-config Xaccess Xservers.ws wdm-config.in Xclien

wdm rc script

2021-10-05 Thread Bob Bernstein
/usr/pkgsrc/x11/wdm/MESSAGE states: --snip-- In case you don't have PKG_RCD_SCRIPTS set in your /etc/mk.conf, copy ${PREFIX}/${RCD_SCRIPTS_EXAMPLEDIR}/wdm to /etc/rc.d/wdm and add the following line into your /etc/rc.conf wdm=YES --snip-- If you'll pardon the expression, in an

Re: NetBSD on a NUC

2021-09-28 Thread Bob Bernstein
As I sat pondering my response to your rather thoughtful note, I said to myself, "But what are the odds that install CD's from both NetBSD and OpenBSD would fail to detect the onboard disk?" it dawned on me that I had carelessly omitted any reference in my original post to trying an install iso

NetBSD on a NUC

2021-09-27 Thread Bob Bernstein
A few years ago I was given an Intel NUC running Windows 10, and I used it for quite awhile since it allowed me to enjoy Adobe Acrobat and Epson's Scan Utility. I was very familiar with both of those products. Earlier this year the NUC went belly up complaining that it could not find bootabl

Re: More re USB stick

2021-09-24 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 24 Sep 2021, RVP wrote: Not surprising: on NetBSD both the whole disk device name and the `d' name are the same device: I knew that but thought it was important to go through the motions of performing the experiment, given some of the ways the universe seems to be having its little

Re: More re USB stick

2021-09-24 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 24 Sep 2021, Bob Bernstein wrote: dd if=NetBSD-7.0-amd64-install.img of=/dev/rsd0d bs=1m That 'rsd0d' would appear to designate a partition. I repeated the experiment, only using this command: $ sudo dd if=NetBSD-9.99.88-amd64-install.img of=/dev/rsd0 bs=1m ...and had

Re: More re USB stick

2021-09-24 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 23 Sep 2021, Jason Mitchell wrote: Did you say you copied the .img file to a partition on the flash card? You may be right. I copied this dd command from a wiki page: dd if=NetBSD-7.0-amd64-install.img of=/dev/rsd0d bs=1m That 'rsd0d' would appear to designate a partition. Perhaps I

Re: More re USB stick

2021-09-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, Martin Husemann wrote: Probably easiest way for now: boot the 9.1 (!) bios install image to install... Regrettably, results with the 9.1 install.img were unchanged from my experiments with current-. Right now I am going to put this project on hold. I've had to deal wit

More re USB stick

2021-09-21 Thread Bob Bernstein
Last week (9/16/21) I was helped by the list to mount (for viewing/inspection) a USB stick on which I had placed an install.img for current 9.99.88. Problem: the old eMachine I wish to boot from this stick ignores its presence, and USB's first place position in the BIOS boot order. The boot

Re: View an install.img file

2021-09-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, Martin Husemann wrote: Doesn't the image use GPT nowadays? So it will be dkN instead of vnd0a, try dkctl vnd0 listwedges Bingo: # dkctl vnd0 listwedges /dev/rvnd0: 2 wedges: dk0: EFI system, 262144 blocks at 2048, type: msdos dk1: 0895dffe-fe3d-403d-b50a-91ad47f3

Re: View an install.img file

2021-09-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, Manuel Bouyer wrote: Now I run aground: $ sudo mount -t msdos /dev/vnd0a /mnt mount: no match for `vnd0a': No such process I am of course guessing at 'msdos' AND vnd0a! The Guide provides examples for iso images but I don't see any for "install.img". the install image isn

View an install.img file

2021-09-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
I have grabbed NetBSD-9.99.88-amd64-install.img.gz from http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/HEAD/latest/images/ and gunzipped it. I thought to mount it for viewing before writing it to my USB stick. Shouldn't pester a busy vnode: $ sudo vnconfig -l vnd0: not in use vnd1: not in use vnd2

Re: Does a full install include NetBSD and X sources?

2021-09-12 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 13 Sep 2021, Riza Dindir wrote: Does a full install include the netbsd sources Yes, pretty much, sort of. as well as the X sources? No, not so much, sort of. But what are you really asking? What is it, in your view, that either stands or falls depending upon one's definition of t

Re: OT: Midnight Commander 'pause after run' fails

2021-05-26 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 26 May 2021, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: it behaves as expected - pauses when Always or "On dumb terninals" is selected and doesn't pause when "Never" is selected. Turning OFF "use internal view" got the desired behaviour back for me. I thought that perhaps mc's 'subshell' mechanism might

OT: Midnight Commander 'pause after run' fails

2021-05-26 Thread Bob Bernstein
The option is set in mc's Configuration screen, but is steadfastly ignored any time I "run" something in mc, even as simple as an 'ls'. My details: NetBSD nebbytwo 9.99.81 NetBSD 9.99.81 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Mar 20 14:30:50 UTC 2021 mkre...@mkrepro.netbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENE

Re: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

2021-04-25 Thread Bob Bernstein
Thanks for all the encouragement. I've decided I don't need lyx running in NetBSD. I was getting farther into a rabbit-hole I didn't want to be in to begin with. If you know what I mean. And I'm sure you do. Thank you again to all. -- RSB

Re: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

2021-04-24 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021, RVP wrote: Correction: On NetBSD that would be: if [ -x /usr/pkg/bin/dbus-launch -a -z "${DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS}" ]; In either ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession dbus is launching via standard rc.conf mechanism, with a 'starting dbus' message displayed during boot. Do you

Re: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

2021-04-24 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021, Rhialto wrote: Did you ever have LyX installed / running before? No, not on my NetBSD machine at any rate. It is just a wild guess, but does it help if you install that? xdg-utils got installed along with Lyx and the qt5 packages. Did you install from the latest sta

XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

2021-04-24 Thread Bob Bernstein
I have built from pkgsrc 'lyx' with the qt5 libs. Typing 'lyx' at a command prompt yields: $ lyx QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-bob' I pecked through the qt5 pkgsrc dirs (for the qt5 packages that were built) hoping to find a MESSAGE containing instructi

Re: httpd, cgi, ikiwiki, and me.

2021-04-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Fri, 9 Apr 2021, Bob Bernstein wrote: THE FIX was adding this arg to httpd_flags: '-c /var/www/cgi-bin' [snip] I found that '-c' in bozohttpd's man page. When asked why I prefer NetBSD to all the rest, my answer has a

Re: httpd, cgi, ikiwiki, and me.

2021-04-18 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021, Bob Bernstein wrote: Since upgrading to 9.99.81, httpd doesn't launch a cgi that has worked for years, to wit /var/www/cgi-bin/ikiwiki.cgi. My rc.conf looks at it always has, at least in regard to httpd: httpd=YES httpd_flags="-I " httpd_w

httpd, cgi, ikiwiki, and me.

2021-04-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
Since upgrading to 9.99.81, httpd doesn't launch a cgi that has worked for years, to wit /var/www/cgi-bin/ikiwiki.cgi. My rc.conf looks at it always has, at least in regard to httpd: httpd=YES httpd_flags="-I " httpd_wwwdir="/var/www" * * * Also, I'm afraid I gave short shrift,

Re: pkgin repo

2021-04-07 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021, Dan Cîrnaț wrote: Telling pkgin: 'pkgin install gdm' led to 59 packages being "refreshed", and 4 more installed. Please be aware that those pkgin repos only have packages for the main pkgsrc tree, excluding pkgsrc-wip. The gdm version there is 2.x., an old one. I did no

Re: pkgin repo

2021-04-06 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: I don't think there are "official" pkgin repos for -current. However, check https://pkgsrc.joyent.com/install-on-netbsd/ . What I put in my /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin/reposiories.conf was: https://pkgsrc.joyent.com/packages/NetBSD/trunk/x86_64/All/ Telling

pkgin repo

2021-04-06 Thread Bob Bernstein
I am taking a first run at pkgin. It fails trying to get a file from: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/$arch/9.99.81/All ...which can be found in my /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin/repositories.conf. I have here: $ uname -a NetBSD nebbytwo 9.99.81 NetBSD 9.99.81 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Mar 20

Re: Installing NetBSD 9.1 on USB stick, not booting

2021-04-05 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Mayuresh wrote: What exactly do I need to do to make it bootable. I don't need it to work with the hdd of the host or grub etc. Just need plain simple bootable usb stick that would boot into NetBSD. It's a small world. I just got through reading this about an hour ago:

How to invoke 'make' for updating a meta package?

2021-04-04 Thread Bob Bernstein
The meta package in question is modular-xorg. Mine is quite old. My spidey-sense tells me that in practice one does not "update" a meta-package per se. Or perhaps not? What is considered Best Practices wrt this situation? Thank you and Happy Easter all. -- RSB

Re: Two dbus questions

2021-04-02 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021, Dan Cirnat wrote: On 31.03.21 21:34, Bob Bernstein wrote: I am using 9.99.81 amd64 (GENERIC) I grabbed the GIT pkgsrc tree and did 'make replace' for /devel/glib2 and /systutils/dbus. On reboot dbus started normally with no complaint. Still using icewm

Two dbus questions

2021-03-31 Thread Bob Bernstein
I am using 9.99.81 amd64 (GENERIC) 1. I built the gnome3 metapackage, and tried gedit from the commandline. The editor launched, but not before issuing this: "(gedit:18215): dconf-WARNING **: 14:19:18.664: failed to commit changes to dconf: Cannot spawn a message bus without a machine-id: Un

Anon CVS server MIA?

2021-03-29 Thread Bob Bernstein
On https://www.netbsd.org/mirrors/#anoncvs I see this server advertised: anoncvs3.us.NetBSD.org, but it appears to be at least unreachable: $ host anoncvs3.us.NetBSD.org Host anoncvs3.us.NetBSD.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) I wonder if it was not a victim of the horrible winter problems that bef

Re: 9.1 upgrade fails: Shared object"libc.so.12" not found

2021-03-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021, Bob Bernstein wrote: I used the 9.1 CD I made and booted into single-user mode. Then: # pwd # / # cd lib # ls -l libc.so.12.* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Oct 18 19:24 libc.so.12 -> libc.so.12.213 -r--r--r 1 root wheel 2079984 Oct 18 19:24 libc.so.12.213

Re: 9.1 upgrade fails: Shared object"libc.so.12" not found

2021-03-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021, Greg Troxel wrote: boot single user and use /rescue/sh etc. to see what's up in terms of having libc from current and 9, and where init is from. I tried that, and got something I've never seen before. I used the 9.1 CD I made and booted into single-user mode. Then: # pw

Re: 9.1 upgrade fails: Shared object"libc.so.12" not found

2021-03-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021, Greg Troxel wrote: Current from may of 2020 is newer than 9.1, in terms of branch relationships, so this was not an upgrade. Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. Ha. The other option is to upgrade to current current. I think I'll give that a whirl. Thank you! -- RSB

9.1 upgrade fails: Shared object"libc.so.12" not found

2021-03-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
The message shown is what appeared as I finished what appeared to be an uneventful upgrade from an old 'current' netbsd (May of last year) to amd64 9.1. That message, about a missing libc.so.12, was interspersed on the upgrade screen reporting almost complete success in checking /etc. There w

Where is NetBSD-9.1-amd64-install.img.gz

2021-03-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
I believe this is the file I want to put on my USB stick. The ftp looked to be taking over a half an hour at ftp.netbsd.org. Is there a better site for a simple download? Thank you. -- RSB

pkgsrc via git

2021-02-07 Thread Bob Bernstein
I've forgotten the cmd line for getting current pkgsrc from the git repo. Duh. :( -- RSB

Re: postfix for 2 domains on 1 vps 1 ip

2021-01-03 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021, Bob Proulx wrote: I apologize to the group for monopolizing the conversation with so many mail messages here today. To 'monopolize' the list would necessitate you invoke magical power to reach into list subscriber's brains in order to restrain them from posting. Most ba

Re: OT: User-friendly /bin/sh

2020-07-31 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020, Bob Bernstein wrote: Can some Good Samaritan please point me to a HOW-TO that would provide the needed basic instructions? Thank you all! And, yes, Mike gets two extra Fig-Newtons on his plate tonight! -- Man is essentially a dreamer, wakened sometimes for a moment by

OT: User-friendly /bin/sh

2020-07-31 Thread Bob Bernstein
*** Mandatory Trigger Warning /begin *** Brain-dead noobie post dead ahead! *** Mandatory Trigger Warning /end *** I have learned the hard way not to mess with the shell superuser is supposed to use. I rarely go to su, but it would be pleasing if, when I do, I had two features available from th

Living with Rust

2020-07-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
I am liable to change important system files without really knowing what I'm doing beyond trusting one of you wonderful NetBSD developers never far from this list. Over the weekend, having made progress cleaning up this old system, I asked it to build in pkgsrc Firefox68, and, unsurprisingly,

Re: How to "turn on" fonts in X?

2020-07-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, Benny Siegert wrote: You probably need Bitstream Vera and msttcorefont. Got 'em now. Vera brought icewm instantly to life. Thanks guy. -- A test of right and wrong must be the means, one would think, of ascertaining what is right or wrong, and not a consequence of hav

Re: How to "turn on" fonts in X?

2020-07-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, Bob Bernstein wrote: Are there some basic font configuration steps I need to take? I believe Hegel wrote that the owl of Minerva spread its wings only at dusk, meaning of course that enlightenment comes at the end of the day. Having removed all the packages from this

How to "turn on" fonts in X?

2020-07-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
I progress reconstituting my NetBSD system, after removing all packages. For example, typing 'startx' in my home dir launches icewm, with the mouse nicely functional. Problem: none of the wm's buttons or menus have any readable labels, as if they don't know how to obtain needed fonts. Are th

Re: I finally bricked my NetBSD system

2020-07-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Greg Troxel wrote: What I would do is export EDITOR=ed export VISUAL=ed Perhaps also "export TERM=cons25" would help. I think that last one was the one that got me past having to learn a bit of ed for the first time in probably thirty years. vipw worked fine once i

Re: I finally bricked my NetBSD system

2020-07-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Greg Troxel wrote: 2) boot single user, by hitting space during the countdown and "boot -s". hit return for sh. Once there, type "fsck -p" to fix any issues. Then "mount -a". Then put back the shell with pkg_add, or use vipw to change your shell back to /bin/sh. vipw

I finally bricked my NetBSD system

2020-07-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
There's a long back-story to this event, but it's not important. Suffice to say that I removed all the packages from my system, including the shell I like at /usr/pkg/bin/tcsh, and now all my attempts to login are rejected because the shell cannot be found. Is there a work-around? Thank you

Re: Git pkgsrc - setting file locations

2020-07-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
est of right and wrong must be the means, one would think, of ascertaining what is right or wrong, and not a consequence of having already ascertained it. J. S. Mill On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, Greg A. Woods wrote: At Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:40:40 -0400 (EDT), Bob Bern

Re: Git pkgsrc - setting file locations

2020-07-15 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, Greg A. Woods wrote: These are my relevant hacks which I make directly to pkgsrc/mk/defaults/mk.conf: PKGMAKECONF = /etc/mk.conf PKGSRC_MAKE_ENV += USER=${USER:Q} WRKOBJDIR ?=/var/package-obj/${USER} DISTDIR ?= /var/package-distfiles PACKAGES ?= /var/pa

Git pkgsrc - setting file locations

2020-07-15 Thread Bob Bernstein
I have been working awhile now with the GIT pkgsrc, and it occurs to me that it might be an advantage to provide different locations for things such as distfiles, packages, and...what else? What is suggested, and where/how is the optimum method for altering these values? Thank you -- A te

Re: pkg_admin usage

2020-06-29 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020, Benny Siegert wrote: I have used command lines such as some_command | xargs pkg_admin set rebuild=YES in the past. Ah. That looks very promising. My experiments with command lines such as pkg_admin set rebuild=YES package1 package2 etc or pkg_admin set rebuild=YES pac

pkg_admin usage

2020-06-29 Thread Bob Bernstein
The man page for pkg_admin contains this line: set variable=value pkg ... Do the three final "..." indicate that if it is desired to set that variable to that value for more than one package, then can be named in a whitespace-separated list? Thank you -- A test of right and wrong must be t

Text wrapping ("fill paragraph) in gedit

2020-06-24 Thread Bob Bernstein
In gedit's "Preferences" I have text wrapping turned on. What is the keyboard shortcut, or menu choice, for "Wrap text" or "Fill Paragraph?" $ gedit --version gedit - Version 3.22.1 $ uname -a NetBSD nebby.localdomain 9.99.59 NetBSD 9.99.59 (GENERIC) #0: Tue May 5 23:50:07 EDT 2020 bob@neb

Re: CDN readme out of date

2020-06-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Greg Troxel wrote: Perhaps it should say they are updated t.i.w. Troublemaker. -- "No matter how big the problem is, you can always run away from it." Dom Irrera

Needed: How-To for new users of git pksgsrc

2020-05-08 Thread Bob Bernstein
For example, how to update just a branch, or even one package? Please keep all your cards and letters coming. Thank you -- A test of right and wrong must be the means, one would think, of ascertaining what is right or wrong, and not a consequence of having already ascertained it.

Switching pkgsrc to git repository

2020-05-04 Thread Bob Bernstein
My spidey sense, or "inner bofh," tells me it's time. Other than the clone command per se (from /usr/pkgsrc/README.md) "git clone https://github.com/NetBSD/pkgsrc.git ...are there any caveats or head's up I should heed? Any handy "for dummies" wiki pages? Thank You -- A test of right and

Controlling pkg_rolling-replace

2020-04-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
I want to run RR on my system but prevent it from rebuilding; 1. www/ikiwiki and 2. Any perl package on which it depends. (There are many.) I know '-X ikiwiki' will see to #1 above, but I am at sea as to how to enforce #2. If need be I could settle for a broader #2, that is "Any package on w

The new alpine builds with ease on NetBSD!

2020-01-20 Thread Bob Bernstein
up on my NetBSD system! The source tarball is here: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/release/ Woo-hoo! -- Bob Bernstein A test of right and wrong must be the means, one would think, of ascertaining what is right or wrong, and not a consequence of having already

Re: My version# and latest security advisory

2019-12-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 07:46:31PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > > '9.0_BETA NetBSD 9.0_BETA (GENERIC) #0: Wed Nov 20 16:50:50 UTC 2019' > > Since you are using 9.0_BETA the "NetBSD-current" line is not for you. > Instead there is: > > Fixed:NetBSD-9 branch:October 28, 2019 >

My version# and latest security advisory

2019-12-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
NB. Since I don't think I should begin a thread to the Security Officer, I am sending this to netbsd-users. The security advisory today -- re filemon -- contains this line under the "Affected" heading: > Version:NetBSD-current: affected up to 9.99.17 As usual I am tardy keeping

Re: EV_SET fallout (was Re: rxvt-unicode build snafu)

2019-11-22 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:12:24PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > Also looking at the error message, please upgrade your > current snapshot to a newer version. That did the trick: "NetBSD nebby.localdomain 9.0_BETA NetBSD 9.0_BETA (GENERIC) #0: Wed Nov 20 16:50:50 UTC 2019 mkre...@mkrepro.ne

rxvt-unicode build snafu

2019-11-21 Thread Bob Bernstein
Again I apologize for including a long log file from the ailing rxvt-unicode on my 'NetBSD nebby.localdomain 9.0_BETA NetBSD 9.0_BETA (GENERIC) #0: Sun Aug 18 14:36:49 UTC 2019 mkre...@mkrepro.netbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64' install: Script started on Thu Nov 21 23:41

a panics are popping up

2019-11-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
My NetBSD install is rebooting itself on odd occasions. This is $ uname -a NetBSD nebby.localdomain 9.0_BETA NetBSD 9.0_BETA (GENERIC) #0: Sun Aug 18 14:36:49 UTC 2019 mkre...@mkrepro.netbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64 I have not done any tinkering with this install beyon

Re: sync netbsd drive with Windows 10

2019-10-14 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, David Brownlee wrote: I've had good experiences running syncthing to sync data between a set of NetBSD boxes (some directories being master on one machine only and pushing out, others allowing changes from multiple ends). Its cross platform. It might be overkill for just

sync netbsd drive with Windows 10

2019-10-14 Thread Bob Bernstein
Request for Suggestions: I am gathering what will ultimately be about 100G of files on my amd64 Netbsd (an old eMachine windows box itself) system's original HD. That system as well as my Windows 10 (running off a NUC) are cat-5 wired into the LAN upstairs here in the house. The NUC now ha

Re: perl5 update to 5.30 did not finish, maybe?

2019-10-04 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 12:42:44PM +0200, Rhialto wrote: > So something weird may be going on. I would give assent to that speculation. > The package that adds > /usr/pkg/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.28.0/LWP.pm is > p5-libwww-6.39. I used this hint to solve (apparently) the problem of the missi

[Resend: perl5 update to 5.30 did not finish, maybe?]

2019-10-03 Thread Bob Bernstein
A series of misadventures that began nicely enough with a successful cvs up of my pkgsrc tree, followed by an uneventful run of pkg_rolling-update has however left me with a new perl5, as noted ver. 5.30.0, that appears not to have finished its build. My attention was aroused when I tried what

perl5 update to 5.30 did not finish, maybe?

2019-10-03 Thread Bob Bernstein
A series of misadventures that began nicely enough with a successful cvs up of my pkgsrc tree, followed by an uneventful run of pkg_rolling-update has however left me with a new perl5, as noted ver. 5.30.0, that appears not to have finished its build. My attention was aroused when I tried what

Re: Write an install image to a flash drive?

2019-08-25 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019, Edgar Pettijohn wrote: Just install the system to the flash drive instead of the hard drive. Believe it or not, that possibility passed through my addled pate more than once, and left me wondering: "H?" Thank you -- Poobah

Re: Write an install image to a flash drive?

2019-08-25 Thread Bob Bernstein
Thanks for your reflections on USB sticks and booting therefrom! I know I am going to do more experiments with them. I bought two 64 gig sticks, one of which I used to upgrade my 'current' NetBSD machine, but the other is still in its package. Not sure what I will do with it. I would like to

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